<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443</id><updated>2011-11-27T06:50:40.564-05:00</updated><category term='Indentured Servants: Early Immigrants'/><category term='2009 April Free DVD Special'/><category term='HAM Country Updates'/><category term='Poll:  HAM Revolutionary War Veterans'/><category term='Poll Results:  Areas of Interest'/><category term='POLL:  Jerome HAM April 2008'/><category term='Devon DNA Project'/><category term='Footnote'/><category term='HAM genealogy book You Tube video trailer'/><category term='1821 Grayson County Land Grant'/><category term='1637 John HAM of Bristol sells tobacco from Virginia'/><category term='Devon Family Historian and the Devon DNA Project'/><category term='Somerset and Dorset Family History Society'/><category term='Free HAM Book Give Away Contest - April 2008'/><category term='Free HAM Book Give Away Contest - May 2008'/><category term='Revolutionary War Veteran'/><category term='Family Tree DNA Sale'/><category term='2009 Family Tree DNA Conference phylogenetic tree phylip'/><category term='Poll Results:  Jerome HAM - April 2008'/><category term='HAM DNA Project 2007'/><category term='Glastonbury Ties? Butleigh'/><category term='HAM African American Origins in Virginia'/><category term='Mapping Y-DNA M253 in France'/><category term='Y-DNA Project Grouping with Genetic Distance'/><category term='Facebook Albums on line'/><category term='HAM Country move to Ohio'/><category term='Viking Origins and Y-DNA'/><category term='Free 1930 Census Images'/><category term='POLL: Areas of interest'/><category term='Lost Gold of the Dark Ages - Staffordshire Hoard'/><category term='CNN DNA Genealogy Article'/><category term='Keeping Y-Search Up to Date'/><category term='Mapping Viking Migration with Y-DNA STRs'/><category term='Lieutenant William HAM'/><category term='County Somerset'/><category term='Faces of America with Henry Louis Gates'/><category term='The HAM Stone'/><category term='Ancestry of Mary OLIVER'/><category term='KallOut - New Search Tool'/><category term='Parish Registers on line'/><category term='England Traces in France'/><category term='How To Read HAM DNA Phylograms phylogenetic genetic genealogy family tree'/><category term='Book Price Change History'/><category term='John HAM'/><category term='HAM Counties of Origin in North Carolina video'/><category term='National Genographic News'/><category term='UK Family Name Origins Project Launched'/><category term='HAM County Origins in England Somerset Cornwall London'/><category term='Facebook Research Trip Photo Album'/><category term='Journal of Genetic Genealogy'/><category term='Y-STR Mutation Wars'/><category term='Will of Elizabeth OLYVER'/><category term='Contest Results:  Jerome HAM Poll - April 2008'/><category term='ft2phy: Y-DNA STR to ATGC conversion'/><category term='Jr.'/><category term='Y-DNA Mutation Rates - A Case Study'/><category term='Charles Darwin Y-DNA'/><category term='Ancient Migrations Using STR TMRCA'/><category term='POLL Results: HAM Revolutionary War Veterans'/><category term='Researching in England'/><category term='Revolutionary War Quick Studies'/><category term='Y-DNA and Viking Migration'/><category term='Grayson County VA Origins'/><category term='Tree Building for Y-DNA Surname Projects'/><category term='Family History Monthly'/><category term='England'/><category term='HAM Surname Counties of Origin in Virginia'/><title type='text'>HAM Country blog</title><subtitle type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Supplement to the &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt; HAM Country&lt;/a&gt; web site. A journal of genealogy articles related to the HAM, HAMM, HAMME, or HAMN surname. Includes some posts related to history, genealogy, DNA and genetics relevant to the HAM surname. Areas include Virginia, North Carolina, England, France, Kentucky, and Tennessee.
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&lt;/i&gt;</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>65</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-1464957175452553562</id><published>2011-09-19T21:26:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-19T21:34:36.704-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mapping Viking Migration with Y-DNA STRs'/><title type='text'>Mapping Viking Migration with Y-DNA STR's</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #274e13;"&gt;Mapping Viking Migration with Y-DNA STR's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: blue; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Y-DNA analysis of STR information can provide clues to Viking migration in recent time frames. The Y-DNA STR YMRCA estimates suggests that the Norse (Vikings) could have originated from seafaring peoples of the Mediterranean Sea.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="float: left; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; padding: 4px;"&gt;&lt;script src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share" type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;/script&gt; &lt;a expr:share_url="data:post.url" href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=3560678327616192443" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;Share on Facebook&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; widget and many other &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;great free widgets&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; at &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;Widgetbox&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;! Not seeing a widget? (&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;More info&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;In March, 2011, the results of grouping the DNA STR information by country for the I1 (M253) haplotype were studied.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;These results suggested a migration along a sea-faring route in recent time frames. In order to visualize that, a possible migration route is presented here. As stated in the article in March, the method does have some problems. It may be worthwhile to visualization the difference in from currently posted maps of SNP's in order to contrast with what was found from the STR study.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Most SNP maps today show an overland route for M253 either through the mountains of Europe, or through the general vicinity of Germany. The STR map (below) suggests a sea-faring route, based upon TMRCA estimates for STR modal groups by country.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DmHGJM9GLA0/TnfpxOWsGxI/AAAAAAAAAaU/uVcOfiL1npU/s1600/I1_M253_STR_Geo_Map_Hamm_09192011.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="311" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DmHGJM9GLA0/TnfpxOWsGxI/AAAAAAAAAaU/uVcOfiL1npU/s320/I1_M253_STR_Geo_Map_Hamm_09192011.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;click on image to enlarge&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of the resulting TMRCA estimates were stylized in order to represent the data in one graphic.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For reference, see "Y-DNA and Viking Migration"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/y-dna-and-viking-migration.html"&gt;http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/y-dna-and-viking-migration.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 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font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Revolutionary War&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i style="color: #0b5394;"&gt;Quick Studies&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;Drury Ham has  to be my favorite HAM Revolutionary War Veteran. His account of his  activities as an Indian Spy, combined with his recollection of the  Battle of Cowpens is fairly colorful material. Mordecai Ham was a  dragoon at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. William Ham was at the  Siege of Yorktown.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float: left; padding: 4px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share" type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url="data:post.url" href="" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt; Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&amp;amp;gt;Share on&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;Facebook&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt; widget and many other &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&amp;amp;gt;great free widgets&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt; at &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&amp;amp;gt;Widgetbox&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt;! Not seeing a widget? (&amp;amp;lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&amp;amp;gt;More&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;info&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;If you are looking for a quick study regarding the battles of the Revolutionary War, Jeff Weaver has a few small (and inexpensive) books listed on his Lulu web site. These brief books would be a good companion to our history. These books  (below) generally have a good overview of the action, maps, graphics,  and an index. These battles are considered to mark the point where the  Americans began to win the Revolutionary War. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;In our book "A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC," we list some details about the Revolutionary War veterans that carried the HAM(M) surname. There were HAM(M) Revolutionary War Veterans that fought in each of the battles that are considered to have turned the tide of the war. Jeff Weaver's books should be of interest to those who want a brief overview (50+ pages) of these battles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were Ham(m)'s who were Revolutionary War Veterans from each of these battles:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Battle of Kings Mountain&lt;br /&gt;Battle of Cowpens&lt;br /&gt;Battle of Guilford Courthouse&lt;br /&gt;Siege at Yorktown&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Battle of Kings Mountain&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(October 7th, 1780&amp;nbsp; Near Blackburn, SC and King's Mountain, NC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OPOdzVfpWHg/TnVplv7wrPI/AAAAAAAAAZg/GfEbbKuFEwQ/s1600/Battle_of_Kings_Mountain_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OPOdzVfpWHg/TnVplv7wrPI/AAAAAAAAAZg/GfEbbKuFEwQ/s1600/Battle_of_Kings_Mountain_thumb.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;During the summer of 1780, British commander Patrick Ferguson travelled through South Carolina into North Carolina&amp;nbsp; gathering loyalist support for the British. After a string of small battles (Wofford's Iron Works, Musgrove's Mill, Thicketty Fort, and Cedar Spring) the campaign culminated in August with the defeat of the Americans at the Battle of Camden. The American "Over Mountain Men" retired to their homes in North Carolina to rest.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;In September, British General Cornwallis ordered commander Ferguson to the north, before joining the main British forces again at a later time. By October 7, Ferguson had camped at King's Mountain.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;American Colonels McDowell, Sevier, Shelby and Campbell gathered in Tennessee and marched to (present day) Morganton, joining those serving under Cleveland and Winston. On October 6th, they joined forces with Colonel Williams at Cowpens.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;The American soldiers marched through the night and arrived at King's Mountain on October 7th. They surrounded the mountain in a horshoe formation, taking cover in the heavily wooded area. The battle lasted about an hour and 225 Loyalists were killed, 716 were taken prisoner. 28 Patriots were killed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1824072604"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-kings-mountain/106795?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-kings-mountain/106795?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Battle of Cowpens&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(January 17, 1781&amp;nbsp; Cowpens, South Carolina)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QscQOpKboYk/TnVrSD6SnQI/AAAAAAAAAZw/kL_t4lz1bKc/s1600/Battle_of_Cowpens_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="194" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QscQOpKboYk/TnVrSD6SnQI/AAAAAAAAAZw/kL_t4lz1bKc/s400/Battle_of_Cowpens_thumb.JPG" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;Maj. General Nathanael Greene needed time to recover from the Battle of King's Mountain, and split his mobile force off to be under the command of Brig. General Daniel Morgan. The British Lt. General Charles Cornwallis recognized the strategy and sent his own mobile force under Lt. Colonel Banastre Tarleton after Morgan. After several weeks of maneuvering, General Morgan finally had to choose his ground before Lt. Colonel Tarleton overran him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;Morgan settled on Cowpens, South Carolina. Morgan's strategy was that the British would expect a retreat. Part of Morgan's plan was for Andrew Pickens' militia to feignt a withdraw by firing three times, and then falling back. When the battle took place, the British became undisciplined and broke ranks in pursuit. This loss of discipline allowed the planned actions of the Continentals to thoroughly rout the British and destroy General Cornwallis' light troops.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-cowpens/105905?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-cowpens/105905?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Battle of Guilford Courthouse&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(March 15, 1781&amp;nbsp; Greensboro,NC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-veDQDdwVwZM/TnVrvgKv_II/AAAAAAAAAZ4/9JWmBspahFs/s1600/Battle_of_Guilford_Courthouse_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="194" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-veDQDdwVwZM/TnVrvgKv_II/AAAAAAAAAZ4/9JWmBspahFs/s400/Battle_of_Guilford_Courthouse_thumb.JPG" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;After Cowpens, the British General Cornwallis pursued the American General Nathanael Greene to Guilford Courthouse, North Carolina. By this time Greene had built a substantial force (mostly farmers who were nonprofessional temporary soldiers of short duration). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;On March 15, General Greene deployed his men in three lines of battle across the Great Salisbury Wagon Road that led off to the southwest toward the camp of the British army. The front line was deployed against a rail fence that surround farm fields and extended into the forest. The second line was located within the forest behind the first line.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;The British Highland Regiment attacked, and suffered heavy losses before breaking through the center of Greene's front line. The second line fought for about an hour and was broken by the British, but only after the British again suffered heavy losses. The heaviest fighting was at the third line, where the British General Cornwallis found his men being attacked from the remaining two sides of American forces. The battle culminated when Cornwallis decided to fire his cannon into the center of the struggle, killing his own soldiers in the process. When the smoke cleared, the American General Greene ordered a retreat. Cornwallis had won the battle, but suffered heavy casualties.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-guilford-court-house-north-carolina/106960"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-battle-of-guilford-court-house-north-carolina/106960&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;From King's Mountain to Yorktown&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(Siege at Yorktown&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; October 09, 1781&amp;nbsp; Yorktown, Virginia) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b246c-V-Xa4/TnVsF0jbzCI/AAAAAAAAAaA/_9dtrIv9cgc/s1600/From_Kings_Mountain_to_Yorktown_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="194" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b246c-V-Xa4/TnVsF0jbzCI/AAAAAAAAAaA/_9dtrIv9cgc/s400/From_Kings_Mountain_to_Yorktown_thumb.JPG" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;By midsummer, 1781, the Continentals under General Nathaniel Greene had gained virtual control of South Carolina. By September, 1781 Greene had an apparent loss at the Battle of Eutaw Springs to British commanders Arbuthnot and Stewart. Nevertheless, Greene put an end to British conquests in the south. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;Also that month, French commander deGrasse defeated a British Fleet that had come to relieve Cornwallis (Battle of the Chesapeake). As a result of this victory, de Grasse blocked any escape by sea for Cornwallis. British General Cornwallis was stationed in Yorktown, Virginia and was surrounded by land and by sea when George Washington arrives. Trees were cleared, trenches were dug, and redoubts were taken. By October 9th, Rochambeau's French cannons would begin the bombardment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/from-kings-mountain-to-yorktown/111379?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/from-kings-mountain-to-yorktown/111379?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Revolution in Virginia&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;by H.J. Eckenrode&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CVpIXdOJcdc/TnVsaQ1lDdI/AAAAAAAAAaI/3KAaRD7b-fo/s1600/Revolution_in_Virginia_Eckenrode_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="194" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CVpIXdOJcdc/TnVsaQ1lDdI/AAAAAAAAAaI/3KAaRD7b-fo/s400/Revolution_in_Virginia_Eckenrode_thumb.JPG" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-revolution-in-virginia/123625?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-revolution-in-virginia/123625?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Revolutionary War Soldiers from the Upper New River Valley&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;by Jeffery C. Weaver&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lu1MlCIx_uE/TnVtRvduaeI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/x6LPjTAzDmE/s1600/New_River_Valley_Soldiers_thumb.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="194" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lu1MlCIx_uE/TnVtRvduaeI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/x6LPjTAzDmE/s400/New_River_Valley_Soldiers_thumb.JPG" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/revolutionary-war-soldiers-from-the-upper-new-river-valley/126594?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_"&gt;http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/revolutionary-war-soldiers-from-the-upper-new-river-valley/126594?productTrackingContext=author_spotlight_104866_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;About the Publisher&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: left;"&gt;Author Jeffrey C. Weaver holds degrees in American history from Appalachian State University, and after serving in the U.S. Army for several years, he worked as a contracting officer for the U.S. Department of Energy. 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(&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;More info&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;It may be useful for family historians  to use Y-Search data in order to understand ancient migration patterns  for their family line.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;A number of folks disregard the  results from Y-Search that do not provide a DNA match beyond a Genetic  Distance of 6. That's because most are only interested in genealogical  time frames. Deep ancestry is usually left to obscure SNP notations that  may or may not make sense to the average genealogist. The general migration path for an SNP can trace out a migration path dating to tens of thousands of years ago.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; However, a family historian might be  just as interested in what happened within the last two thousand years,  in the hope that some day, supporting documentation may be found, or at  least put on their search list.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; If you have an idea of where your line  originated from within the last two thousand years, then you have an  idea of whether or not you should be interested in, for example,  Normans. Or Saxons. Or Romans.    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;I had not completed my migration study  of HAM DNA Group #1 when I posted the article (about being in a line  from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;England&lt;/span&gt; that also matches Y-DNA for &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Norway&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;.   &lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/05/england-traces-in-france.html"&gt;http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/05/england-traces-in-france.html&lt;/a&gt;  - see cluster #2). However, from the chart listed there, I could have  just as easily listed out the data in chronological order, such as:    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="formatbar_Buttons" style="display: block; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class=" down" id="formatbar_CreateLink" style="display: block;" title="Link"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;present............U.S.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; 1577 AD........Virginia    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;        1288 AD........County Somerset, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;          913 AD........Broennoeysund, Norway    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;          855 AD........Gloucester or London, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;          638 AD........Dirksland or Margraten, Netherlands    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;          465 AD........France    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;          335 AD........Devonshire, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Which should represent a broad outline  of the migration of my own     line (HAM DNA Group #1).  Not a whole lot of movement there,  apparently a fairly stable group. And, my analysis was not really  completed (not all of the data was analyzed). The curious entry there (for my group) would be to determine     where the group from Devonshire was at 335 AD.      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The basic idea is to     create the phylogram from the Y-Search data such that you know where the other Y-Search kits     may have branched off. Then use Dean McGee's Utility to find the TMRCA in order to estimate an approximate     timeline for the migration of your family group.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Without getting into very much detail,  I have done this for another I1 haplotype group (WIDEBURG surname). For  this study, the Y-Search data was divided into small groups, then Dean  McGee's utility was run to get the TMRCA's, and the phylograms were run  on the groups in order to determine what was branching off and what was  not. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Wideburg results resembled a migration pattern such as this:  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Wideburg............   now.........Sweden    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England16........ 1505.........Harpole, Northampton, England; London, England; Thurlby, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England15........ 1580.........Norwich, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Ireland19........... 1430.........County Kerry, Ireland    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany24....... 1305.........Cabell County, Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Netherlands07.. 1305.........Netherlands    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Denmark03....... 1230.........Stadil, Denmark    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany08....... 1155.........Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England01......... 1080.........Essex, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England04......... 1030.........Benwick, Cambs, England; Moulton, Northampton, England; Essex, England;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; ...............................................Newbold Verdon, England; Liverpool, England; London, England;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; ...............................................Bristol, Gloucestershire, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Scotland06.........1030.........Renfrew (Port Glasgow or Paisley), Scotland; Pike County, Georgia, Scotland    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; France01............1030.........Tonquédec, France; Oberroedern, Alsace/Elsass, France    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Denmark05..........805.........Laurbjerg, Denmark    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany38..........730.........Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany50..........730.........Oberstenfeld, Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; France03..............655.........France    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany45..........580.........Falkenhagen, Pomerania/Pommern, Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Slovenia02...........500.........Gradenc, Slovenia    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Switzerland11......405.........Buettenhardt, Schaffhausen, Switzerland    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Sweden05...........155..AD.........Lindesburg Parish, Sweden    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Which suggests an I1 migration pattern  perhaps originating from Slovenia, and perhaps migrating through  Germany via the Danube, through Denmark, France, Scotland, and finally  arriving in England, then Sweden. A lot of movement for this group, and  the analysis was done by placing similar kits within each country into  small groups. The curious point here being to try to understand where  the Switzerland group actually was located in 405 AD, as well as the  location of the Sweden group in 155 AD. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; However, the interesting point for the  Wideburg surname is that they are found in Denmark at about the time of  the Danish Vikings, and are found in France and England at about the  time of the Norman invasion. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; However, dividing kits matched by  country is no guarantee that you will see movement as clearly defined.  When the study was run on the STANLEY surname, the results appeared to be&amp;nbsp;  unreliable for placement on the phylogenetic tree prior to 700 AD. The  migration path for this R1b group traced out like this:  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; STANLEY..... ARJYZ .........Now    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England046...........1360.....AD........GBWJC......Salkeld........Salkeld Parva, Cumberland, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Scotlan033............1216.5..AD........GSMDW....Guthery.........Scotland    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Germany017...........953.5..AD........4MRWP.......Harmon.......Woerttemberg/Wurttemberg, Germany    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; England096.............910.8..AD........83Y4V.........Curtis...........West Farmington, England    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Sweden03...............836.0..AD........SKNTC.......Johansson...Jonsberg, Ostergotland, Sweden    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; Scotlan034..............727.4..AD........N9SQE.......Downie.........Lanarkshire, Scotland    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sweden07&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;684&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;NHVM&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Anderson&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Goteborg, Goeteborg &amp;amp; Bohus, Sweden &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;France08&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;598 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;JQXXQ &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Fousse&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Alsace-Lorraine/Elsass-Lothringen, France &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England075&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;...............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;511&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (490 - 517 Battle of Mons Badonicus - Romano-British under Ambrosius Aurelianus decisively defeat the Anglo-Saxon invaders.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sicily01 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;....................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;488&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Agira, Sicily&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Scotlan032 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;...............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;440&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Scotland &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Sweden06 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;...............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;408 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Nordmaling, V???sterbotten, Sweden&amp;nbsp; (Visigoths under Alaric sack Rome in 410.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Norway03 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;398 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Mandal, Norway &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany019&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;391&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Roethenbach an der Pegnitz, Bavaria/Bayern, Germany (Visigoths defeat the Romans at the Battle of Adrianople in 388)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England097&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;346 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Hertfordshire, England &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany021&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;344&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Rheinland-Pfalz/Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany027&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;316&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Wurzburg, Germany&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Wurzburg is, perhaps, 150 miles from Trier.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany024&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;306 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (307 Emperor Constantine is in Britain, and sends troops against Germanic tribes along the Rhine, begins a major expansion of Trier.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;303 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Plymouth, Devon or Devonshire, England &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England103&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;285&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Baldwin, Isle of Man, United Kingdom &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England098&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;285 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Chorley, England&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Roman Carausius, is put in charge of operations against Saxon and Frankish pirates on the Saxon Shore.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Italy07&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;196&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Mezzojuso, Italy&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Roman Battle of Lugdunum was fought in 197 AD)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany026&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;180 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Schnait im Remstal, Wuerttemberg, Germany&amp;nbsp; (Roman Praetorian Prefect Teratenius Paternus defeats the Quadi.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England106 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;168&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Corby, Northamptonshire, England&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (The Marcomannic Wars ca 166 - 180)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany028&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;151&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Friedrichroda, Germany &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England108 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;133 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Antonine begins construction on his wall in 142 AD)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England110&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;.................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;80&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;England&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Hadrian begins construction on his wall in 122 AD)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany029&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;...............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;59 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Hofheim, Bergstrasse, Hessen, Germany (Gnaeus Domitius Corbulo captures Tigranocerta)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Netherla05&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;57&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Domburg, Zeeland, Netherlands &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Australia3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;...................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;23 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Australia&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (Australia isn't settled by Europeans until about 1600)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Germany031&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..AD........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Wittenberg, Germany (Roman Battle of the Teutoburg Forest)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;France09 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;....................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;3&amp;nbsp; BC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Bourges, France&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [Caesar conquers Bourges (Avaricum) ca 50 BC]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  Looks like the last 1,000 years have  mostly been in England and Scotland. Prior to that they have a German  element, with some indication of the possibility of some ties to Italy  and Sicily. So, it looks like that STANLEY line may be Anglo Saxon, with  something that looks "Romanesque." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The timeline &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;for  the period from 0 AD to 700 AD was updated on Nov 27. 2011, but the phylogeny did not appear to be  stable. That is, it is likely that the timeline would may be correct  (mostly due to the number of markers tested per kit for the period). The original article only listed the results back to 727 AD. Historical references for the date and location were taken from Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; The oldest STR match found indicating possible origins in France. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; For the Stanley surname, the Y-Search  results had been divided into some 158 groups, mostly 67 markers with  less than 20 kits that had been tested to 95 markers. Most of these  beyond 67 markers were panel upgrades, which caused a little bit of  manual effort to sort in correct order.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The dates do not really provide an  explanation of the reasons for migration. It might be reasonable to  expect that short periods of migration along coastal areas or waterways  to be trading activity. But, it might be difficult to interpret the  difference between trading activity and military operations. More  information with regard to historical references may help in the  interpretation of the activities during the time periods.  &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Wikipedia articles:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Roman Battles:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_battles"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_battles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Antonine Wall:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonine_Wall"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonine_Wall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Hadrian's Wall:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Marcomannic Wars:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcomannic_Wars"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcomannic_Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;If you would like me to do this for your surname, please see my &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/Y-DNA_Services.html"&gt;Y-DNA services&lt;/a&gt; web page.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;                                                &lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;To post a comment, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-8185156312333349372?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/8185156312333349372/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=8185156312333349372' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/8185156312333349372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/8185156312333349372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/08/ancient-migrations-using-str-tmrca.html' title='Ancient Migrations Using STR TMRCA'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-6768469568304208335</id><published>2011-05-15T05:02:00.008-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-15T05:34:40.639-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Y-STR Mutation Wars'/><title type='text'>Y-STR Mutation Wars</title><content type='html'>&lt;div  style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Y-STR Mutation Wars&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Dienekes' Anthroplogy blog has a note about the ongoing concern regarding dating Y-DNA.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; You might recall my posting about using &lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/y-dna-and-viking-migration.html"&gt;Y-DNA to date Viking migration&lt;/a&gt; to the last 2,000 years. (Rootsi et. al. had a much earlier dating for I1(a) origins in Europe.)   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Well, the Viking migration article was not the first time Y-DNA dating techniques have been under scrutiny.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;There is some disagreement on dating techniques when comparing SNP TMRCA estimates to STR TMRCA estimates. In this article, he is mostly talking about how to date Y-STR mutations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here, Dienekes talks about a new study by Busby and Capelli.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/05/let-y-str-mutation-wars-begin.html"&gt;http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/05/let-y-str-mutation-wars-begin.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The background information about his previous blog posts is also worthwhile reading:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  How Old is Y-Chromosome Adam?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-old-is-y-chromosome-adam.html"&gt;http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-old-is-y-chromosome-adam.html&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  Dienekes previous posts on his Y-STR series:    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;a href="http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Y-STR%20Series"&gt;http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Y-STR%20Series&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;a share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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Not seeing a widget? (&lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&gt;More&lt;br /&gt;info&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share END--&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2007, population density studies for the HAM DNA Project had shown that Group #1 had a distant genetic match to three areas in England; Yorkshire, London, and Crewkerne (County &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Somerset). Later that year, the project picked up a new participant, Tony Ham, who was a close genetic match to HAM DNA Group #1. Tony was a more recent immigrant to the U.S., and knew that his ancestors were from Brent Knoll, County Somerset. At that point, we knew that the home country of HAM DNA group #1 should be County Somerset, England.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tony had suggested that perhaps we were of Saxon origin, or perhaps Roman origin, since Somerset is in the area of Ham Hill, known to have been used by the Romans. And, the hill carries the Ham name.   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;population density studies by Rootsi, et. al., had shown high concentrations of I1 in Norway. Group #1 should have been of Norman descent. Somerset was an area of England that was not under the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Danelaw, so in all likelihood, they would not be Danish. Yorkshire (also a distant match to Group #1), is famously known to have been under the control of Normans.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, some have said that the Normans were little more than recycled Vikings. You can't really tell the difference &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;between Saxons, Danes, and Vikings, it has been said.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;England has had many invaders up to the time of the Norman Conquest. Romans, Saxons, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Vikings, Normans, and other Scandinavians had invaded it's shores. Logic can provide a good indication of which group your ancestors might belong to. However, it isn't always a straightforward matter to prove which group brought your ancestors to England. Or, to any other country, for that matter.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of genetic genealogy was useful in telling us that HAM DNA Group #1 could be from County Somerset, England. Perhaps it could help determine if HAM DNA Group #1 would be Roman, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Saxons, Danes, or Normans.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It might prove useful to run an ancient migration study on our DNA &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Group #1. An analysis of the modals from some 300 groups (or clans) from over 30 different European countries, could compare to the groups to the Group #1 haplotype. The results from such &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;a study have shown a migration route for the last 2,000 years for the ancestors of HAM DNA Group #1. The migration study showed an arrival in Devonshire, Northumberland and Kent circa 500 AD. Or, at least, the lines with ancestors in these locations today have matched the same location as Group #1 from 500 AD. Which should mean that Group #1 shares a Common Ancestor from 500 AD with lines from Devonshire, Northumberland and Kent.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ancient migration study (of the modals of clans in over 30 countries) showed that HAM DNA Group #1 had arrived in England from France, Germany, Italy, Sicily, and Austria. The phylogenetic tree generated was to close together in time that it looked like the same family, or at least, the phylogeny of the modals could not determine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the difference between these countries.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prior to 500 AD (according to the modals), there was a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;period of about 500 years showing very intense movement, almost obviously by sea, originating in Poland, launching from Slovenia and landing on what appears to be various European coastal &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;areas. It looked very much like intense trading activity.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If HAM DNA Group #1 did in fact arrive in England in 500 AD, then it raises the question of whether or not they would really be of Norman descent. On the other hand, if they simply shared a common ancestor dating from 500 AD, then could the DNA be used to show if they would be Norman descent?&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another DNA study was devised, this time without using modal analysis. This second study was a detailed, kit by kit study of individuals from different countries. The goal was to compare the individuals in HAM Group #1 with individuals from other countries. Each participant in each country would be plotted out on a phylogram, in order to see where HAM Group #1 fits in the genetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This detailed study of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France proved to provide some missing migration information.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First in the comparison procedure, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;three clusters in England that matched the phylogenetic tree to the Somerset group (HAM DNA Group #1) were obtained. Then, Y-Search participants with ancestors from France were sought fo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;r a match to these three "Somerset" clusters. The result was that a significant number of matches were found in France.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following that, comparison of kits from various countries were analyzed for a phylogenetic tree match. In all, a match on individual kits was sought from the Netherlands, England, France, Norway, Denmark, Austria, Germany, and Poland. Each country was compared to HAM DNA Group #1, one at a time. Some countries had no match for the time frame in question. Basically, matches to these three "Somerset" clusters in England were retained, then another match would be sought from another country.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The results for each of the three clusters matching &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;HAM DNA Group #1 are presented below. A map of the matching locations in France are given in the previous blog article on &lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/04/mapping-y-dna-m253-in-france.html"&gt;mapping M253 in France&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Somerset Cluster #1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=" font-weight: bold;font-family:Arial;" &gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FOuW0GrwOKY/Tb49RjuTRXI/AAAAAAAAAY0/Mtp50gHpsEM/s1600/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster01_phylogenetic_tree.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 278px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FOuW0GrwOKY/Tb49RjuTRXI/AAAAAAAAAY0/Mtp50gHpsEM/s400/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster01_phylogenetic_tree.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5601982358351988082" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The phylogenetic tree for the Somerset Cluster #1 has the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;characteristics of the HULL surname in the area of Crewkerne, County Somerset, England. In order to fill out the genetic tree for this cluster, TMRCA matches had to be searched for in a number of countries and plotted out in a phylogenetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It was found that prior to Somerset, this group is likely to be found in Norway. Cities that match in Norway include Lesja, Nordland, and Skaun. The group appears to have been in Norway some 600 to 700 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prior to Norway, the group appears to have migrated from several countries, but mostly Denmark. For this time period, there are matches in Denmark, France, Germany, the Netherlands, etc. Those in France appear to branch off from the main line. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Matching locations in Denmark include Samso and Stadill.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also branching off from this line are the samples from Woodchurch, County Kent, and Warwickshire in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;England.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of origin for this cluster appear to be (at least briefly) from Denmark in the areas of Augustenborg and Tjaereborg about 1200 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Somerset Cluster #2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;          &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TCjYngTV4UM/Tb48SWknIrI/AAAAAAAAAYs/xOX84-oXIqc/s1600/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster02_phylogenetic_tree.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 367px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TCjYngTV4UM/Tb48SWknIrI/AAAAAAAAAYs/xOX84-oXIqc/s400/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster02_phylogenetic_tree.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5601981272489927346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The phylogenetic tree for the Somerset Cluster #2 has the characteristics of the HAM surname in the area of Virginia, in the United States. Again, to fill out the genetic tree for this cluster, TMRCA matches had to be searched for in a number of countries and plotted out in a phylogenetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This group matches to a HAM line in Brent Knoll, County Somerset, England. The length of the line between Norway and England is an indication of either some missing data or a long period of settlement.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was found that prior to Somerset, this group is also likely to be found in Norway. The only city appearing to match in Norway is Broennoeysund, Norway. The group appears to have been in Norway some 900 to 1025 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prior to Norway, the group appears to have migrated from two main areas, England and the Netherlands. Matching&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; locations in England include Somerset, with branching to Gloucester and London.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of origin for this cluster appear to be from the Netherlands in the areas of Dirksland and Margraten about 1200 years ago.Prior to that, they join back into phylogram for France. The TMRCA for kit Z3T3D of Devonshire and the rest of HAM DNA Group #1 dates from 1350 to 1500 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary for this group, the phylogenetic tree suggests that this line does not appear to be of Saxon or Danish ancestry. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;There is certainly an influence from Norway and France. The surprise is the influence of the Netherlands upon the genetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Somerset Cluster #3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;            &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-11NGxYcgAIk/Tb47A44x49I/AAAAAAAAAYk/w3lcc9-EW9Y/s1600/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster03_phylogenetic_tree.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 312px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-11NGxYcgAIk/Tb47A44x49I/AAAAAAAAAYk/w3lcc9-EW9Y/s400/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster03_phylogenetic_tree.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5601979872952050642" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The phylogenetic tree for the Somerset Cluster #3 has the characteristics of the CHAMBERLAIN, HAMMOND, and NOLES surnames in England. To fill out the genetic tree for the cluster, TMRCA matches had to be searched for in a number of countries and plotted out in a phylogenetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For this cluster, the areas in France mapping to Norway are&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; Ringsaker, Buskerud, Oeveroes, and Friedrikstad, (in Norway).&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This group matches to a CHAMBERLAIN line in Rutland, England and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Warwickshire, England. It is also a match to several surnames in France including fitz Osbern, Clergeau, Shappee, Hitt, and Tippit. The locations in France are numerous, but to mention a few with more recent TMRCA estimates:  Crepon, Mouzeil, and Lorraine Province, France. Crepon is near Bayeux, home of the famous Bayeux Tapestry.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It was found that prior to Rutland or Warwickshire, this group appears to tie back to both France and Norway. It would appear that prior to arrival in England, the group ties back to a brief period in Oeveroes, Norway. The TMRCA between the HAMMOND surname and ARNESON surname is estimated at 900 years ago. The TMRCA between the CHAMBERLAIN surname and ARNESON surname is estimated at 1025 years ago.   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prior to the migration from France to England, the group &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;appears to have been in France with the HITT and TIPPIT surnames (PWFVE &amp;amp; Y9QEE), and carry an estimated TMRCA of some 900 to 1025 years ago (to AUXXS, N74PC, and AEDRQ).&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of origin for this cluster appear to be from France, with typical TMRCA estimates ranging from 1200 to about 1500 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;References:    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mapping Y-DNA M253 in France:         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/04/mapping-y-dna-m253-in-france.html"&gt;http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/04/mapping-y-dna-m253-in-france.html&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Historical Map of the Dominions of William the Conqueror about 1087, University of Texas at Austin. Historical Atlas by William Shepherd (1923-26):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/william_conqueror_1087.htm"&gt;http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/william_conqueror_1087.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Norman Conquest of England             &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest_of_England.htm"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest_of_England.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bayeux Tapestry                               &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Y-Search:                           &lt;a href="http://www.ysearch.org/"&gt;http://www.ysearch.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dean McGee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility:                  &lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html"&gt;http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html"&gt;      &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The PHYLIP software package             &lt;a href="http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html"&gt;http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The HAM DNA Project:                  &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt;http://home.earthlink.net/~odoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt;      &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rootsi  et al, Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I Reveals Distinct  Domains of Prehistoric Gene Flow In Europe. American Journal of Human  Genetics, 75:128-137, 2004.      &lt;a href="http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf"&gt;http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf"&gt;        &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;'How to Read HAM DNA Phylograms'    You Tube video       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-49T2p-SyQ"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-49T2p-SyQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;If you have a similar project in mind that you would like me to analyze, then please see the &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/Y-DNA_Services.html"&gt;HAM Country DNA services page&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                          &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post a comment, click on the title and scroll to the bottom &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-910656225261894242?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/910656225261894242/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=910656225261894242' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/910656225261894242'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/910656225261894242'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/05/england-traces-in-france.html' title='England Traces in France'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FOuW0GrwOKY/Tb49RjuTRXI/AAAAAAAAAY0/Mtp50gHpsEM/s72-c/outtree_HAM01_France_Cluster01_phylogenetic_tree.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-5482320526947579206</id><published>2011-04-27T04:44:00.014-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-27T05:44:44.617-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mapping Y-DNA M253 in France'/><title type='text'>Mapping Y-DNA M253 in France</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;big  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Mapping Y-DNA M253 (I1) in France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt; &lt;big  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-style: italic;"&gt;In search of Norman ancestors in France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding: 4px; float: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt; Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on&lt;br /&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! Not seeing a widget? (&lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&gt;More&lt;br /&gt;info&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share END--&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The use of Y-DNA in family history studies has helped to provide clues for reconstructing the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; family tree. It is instructive to map out known M253 samples in France from the Y-Search database in order to see if their is any correlation of the mapping to what is known about the Normans in the historical record.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Population density studies can provide information about country of origin, such as that from Rootsi et. al., in 2004. This paper had shown a high density of the M253 (I1a, or now I1 haplotype group) to be located in Norway, providing a clear clue that M253 could be of Norman Viking descent.   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The area of Normandy itself was conquered by the Romans in 98 AD, and with the fall of the Roman Empire in the 5th century, became dominated by the Franks. Cave paintings and megaliths in Normandy prove that humans have been present in Normandy since prehistoric times.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A review of Viking history shows that the Normans originated from the northern Scandinavian areas, known as "Norsemen," or men from the north. This particular branch of Vikings raided the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;coast of Normandy in the 8th century, and established the area of Normandy, France in 911 AD. The Normans later &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;invaded England with the Norman Conquest in 1066, and generally shared territories in England and Normandy until Normandy was integrated into the Kingdom of France in 1204.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Knowing that M253 has a high population density in Norway, and knowing that the Normans settled the area of Normandy and England, it is helpful to examine the Y-DNA in order to determine of we can identify who may be of Norman descent. This particular study concentrates on mapping the known M253 (I1) Y-DNA participants in the Y-Search database.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;In general, I1 is found in northern France, not just in the area of Normandy, but also along the east and west borders. Of the 32 samples found in Y-Search, 20 of them provide a specific city location in France, and about 12 provide only "France" as the location of their ancestry. Only three specifically indicated the area of &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Normandy as the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;location of their ancestry.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Which is to say, population densityof M253 in France today suggests that the greatest concentration is in the region of Alsace Lorraine. However, it is not the mapping, but the phylogeny of the Y-DNA participants in France that tells us that most M253 in France today is of Norman descent. That is, the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor suggests that nearly two thirds of the Y-Search samples in France are of Norman descent.&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xB0xMyBgO04/Tbfb0qRh-QI/AAAAAAAAAYc/7hIilMP3ggY/s1600/France_M253_map.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 394px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xB0xMyBgO04/Tbfb0qRh-QI/AAAAAAAAAYc/7hIilMP3ggY/s400/France_M253_map.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5600186359406000386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; M253 Y-DNA map in France &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  ( click on image to enlarge)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Y-Search samples are marked by numbering in red in the map (above).&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The details of the Y-Search mapping of the individual M253 samples is given below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;==========================================================================&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   Y-Search                  Surname                    Location&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ID&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;1)  U7MDP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Barron................Normandy, France   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  2)  XDPFV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Blanchard...........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Martaize, Loudun, Dept. of Vienne, France&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;3)  TSCUH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Brochard............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Longeville-lès-Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;        ....H9UNV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Cauchebrais......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;4)  EEWM3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Clergeau............&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Mouzeil, France   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;        ....QEQU3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Coslow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;5)  Q8SAX&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Croteau&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Rouen, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;6)  RD4SF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Dendinger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Oberroedern, Alsace/Elsass, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;7)  9Z4EE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Desjardin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Joigny, France   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;....JXPRP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Desrochers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;....U3BH9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;de Umfraville (modal)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;....FHEVP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Embry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;8)  HWN57&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;fitz Osbern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Crepon, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;9)  9E6CR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Habant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Remiremont, France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;       ....PWFVE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Hitt &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;       ....MWKD3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;JULIAN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;       ....2DRWF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;JULIAN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;       ....4DYN5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;JULIAN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;10) Y7GVD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Le Cun&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;onquédec, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;11) KVYFG&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Leindecker&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Vescheim, Lorraine/Lothringen, France  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;12) Q6TPY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Leindecker&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Bas Rhin, France   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;         ......3D749&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Mallett&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;13) 65X9Z&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Pallette&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Le Pallet, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;14) 5GJAW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Schumacher&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Alsace-Lorraine/Elsass-Lothringen, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;15) SYU9K&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Shappee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Lorraine Province, France&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;         ......CMJ3D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Shiflett &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;16) NJ57E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Souviney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Rennes, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;17) NNSGK&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Tessier&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Angoumais, France   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;         ......Y9QEE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Tippit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;18) QAZCS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Turlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Saint-Germain-sous-Doue, France, France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;19) B83EG&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Vermette&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;.......&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Arras Pas-De-Calais, France&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;20) GJVK6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Vilmur&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;..........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Paris, France  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;==========================================================================  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;When these samples are analyzed for TMRCA, the Common Ancestor typically dates from 700 to 1600 years ago. The minimum TMRCA was 150 years, and the maximum TMRCA was given as 3350 years ago (TSCUH and either KVYFG or Q6TPY). Which is to say, even within the area of Lorraine, the age estimate on the TMRCA has a large variation.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;A significant portion of the samples (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;most individuals on the phylogenetic tree from the JULIAN surname and above) share a common ancestor from 700 to 1500 years ago. In general, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Time to Most Recent Common &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Ancestor does correspond to the Viking activity in France, and the distribution today appears to be most dense in the area of Alsace-Lorraine.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The relatively small sample of markers for M253 distribution in France suggests that not many of this haplotype remained in France.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The phylogenetic tree of the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor of these individuals is given below:  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-usWl02gyVLc/TbfZP29yOyI/AAAAAAAAAYU/8i1_Zn_nz5Q/s1600/Mapping_M253_in_France_phylogenetic_tree.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 327px; height: 400px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-usWl02gyVLc/TbfZP29yOyI/AAAAAAAAAYU/8i1_Zn_nz5Q/s400/Mapping_M253_in_France_phylogenetic_tree.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5600183528134425378" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;M253 in France phylogenetic tree   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;            (click on image to enlarge)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For France, the number of markers tested per individual varied from 25 markers to 76 markers.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Kits with 25 marker results may not present reliable information for the time frame studied.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For this study, kits with 25 marker results were&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;B83EG,       NNSGK&lt;/span&gt;,  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;XDPFV,       5GJAW&lt;/span&gt;,  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;TSCUH, and U7MDP.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;References:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;History of Normandy:                  &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Normandy.htmhttp://"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Normandy.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Norman Conquest of England      &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest_of_England.htm"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest_of_England.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bayeux Tapestry                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Y-Search:                     &lt;a href="http://www.ysearch.org/"&gt;http://www.ysearch.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dean McGee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility:            &lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html"&gt;http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html"&gt;      &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The HAM DNA Project:              &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt;http://home.earthlink.net/~odoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt;      &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rootsi et al, Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I Reveals Distinct Domains of Prehistoric Gene Flow In Europe. American Journal of Human Genetics, 75:128-137, 2004.      &lt;a href="http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf"&gt;http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf"&gt;      &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cristian Capelli  et. al., A Y Chromosome Census of the British Isles, 2003 Cell Press. 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Not seeing a widget? (&lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&gt;More&lt;br /&gt;info&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share END--&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/y-dna-and-viking-migration.html"&gt;previous blog article&lt;/a&gt; posed a possible migration path for the Vikings, specifically usi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ng the Normans as an example. The study &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;used Y-DNA STR modals by country, and dating the phylogram timeline by scaling to the time of the Norman Conquest (1066 AD).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A current (tentative) timeline looks something on the order of:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; (...from more recent locations to more ancient.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Spain......................                                           &lt;t&gt;   324 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Poland....................                                     &lt;t&gt;   156 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Wales.......................                                              &lt;t&gt;    92 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Russia......................                                           &lt;t&gt;    41 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Belgium....................                                  &lt;t&gt;    16 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Portugal...................                                  &lt;t&gt;    10 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Netherlands..............              &lt;t&gt;    10 AD&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Croatia..................                                  &lt;t&gt;   214 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Romania................                         &lt;t&gt;   287 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Turkey...................                                     &lt;t&gt;   537 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Sicily.....................                                           &lt;t&gt;   654 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Ukraine.................                              &lt;t&gt;   793 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Slovenia...............                    &lt;t&gt;   1022 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Czech Republic.....     &lt;t&gt;   1231 BC&lt;/t&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Which is to say, the Y-DNA genetic distance from the time of the Norman Conquest suggests a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;timeline for migration per &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;country. At least, given the modals per country for what should be the Normans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The DNA evidence to support the above is by no means complete, nor conclusive. The modals appear to support migration of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Normans from the Mediterranean Sea, but the specific area for origin (of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia"&gt;Croatia&lt;/a&gt;) is still speculative. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The timeline for origins from Croatia is only minimally &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;supported by very few Y-DNA STR samples in Slovenia and the Czech Republic. However, it is interesting to examine the history of the Croatian people during this time period.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;The Beginning&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Proof for the point of departure for the Viking (I1-M253) migration from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia"&gt;Croatia&lt;/a&gt; is extremely &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;tenuous at best. The timeline shows an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;apparent settlement in Croatia by 214 BC, and arrival in Netherlands in 10 AD with arrival in Portugal in 10 AD. This is fairly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;speculative, based upon very scant DNA evidence for these areas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In order to determine if this timeline is plausible, more data is needed for I1 in the areas of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Mediterranean Sea and the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Black Sea. However, it is interesting to examine any historical (or archeological) evidence for this DNA timeline.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For this article, some brief clips from Wikipedia has been used provide some insight for further study. Wikipedia is not the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;best source for research, but it does give a quick overview of the history of Croatia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Background&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians"&gt;Liburnians&lt;/a&gt; were an ancient people inhabiting the district called &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnia"&gt;Liburnia&lt;/a&gt;, in what is now Croatia. Liburnians were allied to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians"&gt;Illyrians&lt;/a&gt;, who were from the area just south of Liburnia (the former Yugoslavia and current Albania). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Greek history records that &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_I_of_Syracuse"&gt;Dionysius the Elder of Syracuse&lt;/a&gt; (now Sicily) implemented some aggressive tactics towards the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Liburnians in the 4th century BC. These actions eventually resulted in the Romans becoming permanent enemies with the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Liburnians.  Dionysius eventually caused the Liburnians to adopt piracy tactics, and to seek alliances with the Illyrians and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonians"&gt;Macedonians&lt;/a&gt;. After &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great"&gt;Alexander the Great&lt;/a&gt; dies in 323 BC, the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Romans wage wars on the Illyrians and Macedonians, which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;begins the decline of the Liburnian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;strength. In the end, Roman efforts against the Liburnians would be successful, ending in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;about 20 AD. It is not clear if the Liburnians participated in the uprisings in the following centuries (Pannonian revolt).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The combination of the Illyrian Wars and the Pannonian revolt appears to have been concluded when Illyricum was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;dissolved some time around the year 200 AD. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Which implies at least two motives for possible Liburnian migration that are immediately obvious:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     a) The peoples of the area could have migrated in order to escape Roman (or in more ancient &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;times Greek) dominance.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This theory would be supported by Roman aggression and the Pannonian revolt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     b) As the people of Liburnia became part of the Roman Empire, and any migration could have been due to trade or&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;commerce.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;If this is the case (and if the Liburnians were I1), then ample I1 DNA evidence in the area of origin would be&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;evident (from peaceful activities). If DNA evidence in the area (dating to a migration) is not ample, then trading would apply only if it was more successful for the people to leave.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The obvious shared traits among the Vikings and Liburnians would include their seamanship and the practice of piracy.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;However, piracy can be practiced by any seafaring peoples. Although the Vikings used raiding practices (much later), this is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;not conclusive evidence that they would be the same people. It would appear that if archeological evidence is to support this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;timeline, it would be in the comparison of ship building architecture. Wood can be carbon dated. Weapons, jewelry, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;fibulae (brooches) &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;might provide some comparison. Finally, linguistics might provide some clues (as in stone carvings).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;On the blind side, no Native American I1 DNA was studied. The I1 haplotype is thought to have&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;originated in the area of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Black sea with the 170 SNP, so Native American I1 haplotype group is not expected to have originated earlier than in Europe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9ESymDDiwUw/TZAkGkhRI7I/AAAAAAAAAYM/jhkwhfp2j0A/s1600/Liburnia_1st_AD_small.PNG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 331px; height: 383px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9ESymDDiwUw/TZAkGkhRI7I/AAAAAAAAAYM/jhkwhfp2j0A/s400/Liburnia_1st_AD_small.PNG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5589006832867812274" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Liburnia in the Age of Roman Conquest&lt;br /&gt;from Wikipedia  &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Ancient Croatia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The archeology of the Liburnian culture (ancient Croatia) has been divided into three main time periods:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;1)  11th and 10th century BC. Between two waves of Balkan-Pannonian migrations. The Balkans &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;are generally thought of as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;stretching from the Adriatic Sea to the Black Sea. Pannonia was located over the territory of the present-day western half of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Hungary with parts in Austria, Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Pannonia was a first century &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;province of the Roman Empire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;2)  9th to the 5th century BC. Liburnian domination in the Adriatic Sea; its first phase (9th century BC), did not generally &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;continue development of the Late Bronze Age. It was beginning of the Liburnian Iron Age marked by their expansion and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;colonization of Picenum (east coast of Italy), Daunia (southern Italy), and Apulia (southeast Italy) at the Italic shores, which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;resulted in rich and high level of their cultural development in the 8th and 7th century BC, based on sea trade. Rich material &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;exchange with the other Adriatic coasts was continued in the 6th century BC and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;connection to Picenum was still strong, but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;also links to Iapodes (to the north) and Dalmatae (in what is now Croatia, usually classified as Illyrian) has been attested. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;However, in the 5th century BC, the Greeks undertook leadership of trade in the Adriatic Sea and considerable changes &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;occurred, like widening of the import of Greek products.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;3) 5th to the 1st century BC. Decline of their power, typically coinciding with Roman dominance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In more recent history, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the western Empire organized the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_province" title="Roman province"&gt;provinces&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia"&gt;Pannonia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatia"&gt;Dalmatia&lt;/a&gt;, which after its downfall passed to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns"&gt;Huns&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogoths"&gt;Ostrogoths&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; and then to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire"&gt;Byzantine Empire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;At the end  of the 8th century &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne"&gt;Charlemagne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; conquered &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia"&gt;Pannonia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia"&gt;Dacia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;,  then &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istria"&gt;Istria&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnia"&gt;Liburnia&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatia"&gt;Dalmatia&lt;/a&gt;, but the main littoral Liburnian and  Dalmatian cites, however, remained under Byzantine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; control.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Croats settled there in the early 7th century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Ancient Liburnia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The first account of the Liburni comes from Periplus or Coastal passage, an ancient Greek text.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The beginning of the fall of Liburnian domination in the Adriatic Sea and their final retreat to their ethnic region (Liburnia) has &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;been attributed to military and political activities of Dionysius the Elder &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of Syracuse (406 – 367 BC). (Syracuse was what is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;now Sicily.) He finished Carthaginian authority, diminished concurrence in Sicily, and turned against the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscans"&gt;Etruscans&lt;/a&gt;. By 385 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;BC, he focused on the Adriatic Sea, which the Liburnians still dominated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Over the next 300 years, the Liburnians would see their allies fall to the Roman Empire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;By 33 BC, Liburnia becomes the Roman province of Illyricum. One of the last accounts of the era comes from 35 BC where &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Octavian destroyed Illyrian pirate communities in the islands and wiped out the Liburnian naval forces. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In AD 6, the Pannonians, with the Dalmatians and other Illyrian tribes, revolted, and were overcome by Tiberius and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Germanicus, after a hard-fought campaign which lasted for three years. After the rebellion was crushed in AD 9, the province &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of Illyricum was dissolved, and its lands were divided between the new provinces of Pannonia in the north and Dalmatia in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;south. The date of the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;division is unknown, most certainly after AD 20 but before AD 50. The proximity of dangerous barbarian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;tribes (Quadi, Marcomanni) necessitated the presence of a large number of troops (seven legions in later times), and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;numerous fortresses were built on the bank of the Danube.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Settlements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The principal forms of settlements in Liburnia were forts for defense, usually built on elevations and fortified with dry walls. In &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Liburnian territory, about 400 have been identified so far, but they were considerably more numerous. About a hundred of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;names of these hill-forts have kept their roots &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;from prehistory, especially places that had been inhabited permanently. The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;dwellings were square dry-wall ground-floor buildings of one room. Similar stone houses are saved in Croatian tradition in all &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Dalmatia and Kvarner, mostly of rounded form.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Haughey's Fort, County Antrim (Ireland) radiocarbon dating points to 1170-770BC, which suggests that hill forts were not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;uncommon for any area from the iron age. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;     see: &lt;a href="http://mitchtempparch.blogspot.com/2009/01/viking-settlements-in-orkney-and.html"&gt;http://mitchtempparch.blogspot.com/2009/01/viking-settlements-in-orkney-and.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Burial tradition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Liburnians buried their dead in graves near or beneath settlements. They laid their dead on a side in contracted position, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;mostly in chests of stone slabs. Most of graves were used from the time of the Iron Age. Tumuli are numerous on all Liburnian territory &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and especially in the narrowest region of Classical Liburnia (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nin"&gt;Nin&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaton"&gt;Zaton&lt;/a&gt;, etc.).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;There were many different manners of performing a Viking funeral. Norsemen often cremated their dead in ship burials, known &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;from archaeology, sagas, Old Norse poetry, and notably from the account of Ahmad ibn Fadlan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Viking dead were often laid in a boat, or a stone ship, and they were given grave offerings in accordance with the earthly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;status and profession of the deceased, and these offerings could include sacrificed slaves. Afterward, piles of stone and soil &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;were usually laid on top of the remains in order to create a tumulus. The excavation of several Viking burial mounds have &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;yielded complete intact maritime craft, large open boats propelled by oars and sails, several of which are now exhibited in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;various Scandinavian museums.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Throughout Scandinavia, there are many remaining tumuli in honor of Viking kings and chieftains, in addition to runestones &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and other memorials. Some of the most notable of them are at the Borre &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;mound cemetery, in Norway, and Lindholm Høje and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Jelling in Denmark.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:Arial;" &gt;Social customs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Liburnian Ships&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Liburnians were renowned seafarers, notorious for their raids in the Adriatic Sea, which they conducted in their swift &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;galleys. The Greeks and Romans knew them as pirates.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center; font-family:Arial;"&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mZ7UMM3rcMo/TZAkGVe92gI/AAAAAAAAAYE/lQmWlLWEJLI/s1600/Liburnianship_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 338px; height: 254px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mZ7UMM3rcMo/TZAkGVe92gI/AAAAAAAAAYE/lQmWlLWEJLI/s400/Liburnianship_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5589006828831627778" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Battle between Liburnian and Picenian ships from the Novilara tablets (6th/5th century BC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vYqoNIGMiOY/TZAkGbZMGdI/AAAAAAAAAX8/anSS582kKMM/s1600/Danish_Viking_Ship01_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 347px; height: 232px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vYqoNIGMiOY/TZAkGbZMGdI/AAAAAAAAAX8/anSS582kKMM/s400/Danish_Viking_Ship01_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5589006830418008530" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Danish Viking ship replica from The Viking Ship Museum, Roskilde, Denmark&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   &lt;a href="http://vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/index.php"&gt;http://vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/index.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Liburnian stone engravings show long ships with square sails, containing men rowing with swords and round shields.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The obvious structural difference between these ships and the Viking ships is the projectile point in the front of the Liburnian ship at the water line. The obvious similarities include the square Latin sail, shallow bottoms, men rowing, the circular shields and swords.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Remains of a 10 meters long ship from the 1st century BC, were found in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaton"&gt;Zaton&lt;/a&gt; near &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nin"&gt;Nin&lt;/a&gt; (Aenona in Classical Liburnia), a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ship keel with bottom planking made of 6 rows of the wooden boards on each side, specifically joined together, sewn with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;resin cords and wooden wedges, testifying the Liburnian shipbuilding tradition style, therefore named "Serilia Liburnica". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Deciduous trees (oak and beech) were used, while some climber was used for the cords.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A 10th century AD ship of identical form and size, made with wooden fittings instead of sewn planking joints, was found in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;same place, "Condura Croatica" used by the Medieval Croats. Condura could be the closest known vessel to the original &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;"liburna" galley in form, only of much smaller size, with the same features of a quick and agile galley having shallow bottom, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;very straightened but long, with one large Latin sail and one row of oaks on each side.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;By its original form, the liburna was the most similar to the Greek penteconter. It had one bench with 25 oars on each side, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;while in the late ages of the Roman Republic, it became a smaller version of a trireme, but with two banks of oars (a bireme), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;faster, lighter, and more agile than biremes and triremes. The liburnian design was adopted by the Romans and became a key &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;part of Ancient Rome's navy, most possibly by mediation of Macedonian navy in the 2nd half of the 1st century BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It is interesting to note that Viking battle tactics (i.e., speed, agility) and piracy practices were also part of the Liburnian cultural history.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Apparently, there is sufficient historical evidence to suggest that the Liburnians were driven out of the area by sustained Roman aggression.&lt;/span&gt; However, the DNA timeline is only supported by a few Y-DNA STR samples from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Croatia, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Romania, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Turkey, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Ukraine, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Slovenia, and the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Czech Republic. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;More DNA samples from the region may enable us to determine whether or not Croatia was a site of Viking origins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=" font-weight: bold;font-family:Arial;" &gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;Liburnian Timeline&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and the personalities that affected their history&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  (snippets from Wikipedia)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Liburnians were first allied to the region of Illyria, and the Macedonian empire. These two alliances resulted from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;conflicts with Greek and Roman forces and caused the eventual demise of the Liburnians. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;406 – 367 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fall of Liburnian domination in the Adriatic Sea and their final retreat to their ethnic region (Liburnia) were&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;caused by military and political activities of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_I_of_Syracuse"&gt;Dionysius the Elder of Syracuse&lt;/a&gt; (406 – 367 BC).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;(Syracuse was what is now Sicily.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;384 – 383 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A great naval battle was recorded a year after the establishment of Pharos colony, by a Greek inscription in&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Pharos (384 – 383 BC) and by Greek historian &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diodorus_Siculus"&gt;Diodorus Siculus&lt;/a&gt; (80 – 29 BC), initiated by conflicts between &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Greek colonizers and the indigenous islanders of Hvar island, who asked their compatriots for a support.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               According to Diodorus, The Greeks killed more than 5,000 and captured 2,000 prisoners, ran down or captured&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;their ships and burnt down their weapons in dedication their god.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               This battle meant the loss of the most important strategic Liburnian positions in the centre of the Adriatic Sea,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;resulting in their final retreat to their main ethnic region, Liburnia, and their complete departure from the Italic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;coast, except from Trentum. Greek colonization, however, did not penetrate into the Liburnian area, which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;remained strongly held, while Syracusan dominance suddenly diminished, very soon, after death of Dionysius &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Elder of Syracuse. The Liburnians recovered and developed piracy to secure navigable routes in the Adriatic, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;as recorded by Livius in year 302 BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;323 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great"&gt;Alexander the Great&lt;/a&gt;  dies in Babylon. Alexander III of Macedon (20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;commonly known as Alexander the Great, was a king of Macedon or Macedonia, a state in the north eastern &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;region of Greece, and by the age of thirty was the creator of one of the largest empires in ancient history, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;stretching from the Ionian sea to the Himalaya. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;             He was undefeated in battle and is considered one of the most successful commanders of all time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;             Born in Pella in 356 BC, Alexander was tutored by the famed philosopher Aristotle. In 336 BC he succeeded his&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;father &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Macedon"&gt;Philip II of Macedon&lt;/a&gt; to the throne after he was assassinated. Philip had brought most of the city-states of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;mainland Greece under Macedonian hegemony, using both military and diplomatic means.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;            In the years following Alexander's death a series of civil wars tore his empire apart which resulted in the formation&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of a number of states ruled by the Diadochi - Alexander's surviving generals. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;200 - 300 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The middle of the 3rd century BC was marked by the rise of an Illyrian kingdom in the south of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Adriatic Sea, led by king Agron of the Ardiaei. Its piratical activities imperiled Greek and Roman interests in&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Adriatic Sea and caused the first Roman intervention at the eastern coast in 229 BC&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Illyrian Wars were a set of conflicts of 229 BC, 219 BC and 168 BC when Rome overran the Illyrian settlements&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and suppressed the piracy that had made the Adriatic unsafe for Italian commerce. There were three &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;campaigns, the first against Teuta, the second against &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_of_Pharos"&gt;Demetrius of Pharos&lt;/a&gt; and the third against Gentius.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The initial campaign in 229 BC marks the first time that the Roman Navy crossed the Adriatic Sea to launch &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;an invasion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;231 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Demetrius II, king of Macedon, hired Agron (king of the Illyrian tribe of the Ardiaei)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;for military aid against the advancing Greek Aetolians. The Illyrian soldiers routed the Aetolians and returned &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;home as victors. Agron, overjoyed with his success, imbibed a large quantity of wine, which, along with other&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;indulgences caused him a pleurisy. Agron died in 230 BC, just within a few days later after the battle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;230 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agron, king of the Illyrian tribe of the Ardiaei dies a few days after successfully defeating the Greek Aetolians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;229 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To protect against piracy upon Greek and Roman interests, Rome launches the &lt;a&gt;First Illyrian War&lt;/a&gt; against Teuta&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;in 299 BC. (Queen Teuta was the second wife Agron and acting regent of Illyria after Agron's death.) The Illyrian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;tribe of the Ardiaei is subdued by the Romans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;220 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Illyrian_War"&gt;Second Illyrian War&lt;/a&gt; lasted from 220 BC to 219 BC. In 219 BC the Roman Republic was at war with the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Celts of Cisalpine Gaul, and the Second Punic War with Carthage was beginning. Leading this fleet of 90 ships,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Demetrius sailed south of Lissus, violating his earlier treaty and starting the war.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;              Demetrius' fleet first attacked Pylos where he captured 50 ships after several attempts. From Pylos the fleet sailed to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Cyclades, quelling resistance they found on the way. Demetrius foolishly sent a fleet across the Adriatic, and, with the Illyrian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;forces divided, the fortified city of Dimale was captured by the Roman fleet under Lucius Aemilius Paulus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; From Dimale the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;navy went towards Pharos. The forces of Rome routed the Illyrians and Demetrius fled to Macedon where he became a trusted &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;councilor at the court of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_V_of_Macedon"&gt;Philip V of Macedon&lt;/a&gt;, and remained until his death at Messene in 214 BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;217 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Macedonian_War"&gt;First Macedonian War&lt;/a&gt;.  Philip V had tried to replace Roman influence along the eastern shore of the Adriatic,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;forming alliances or lending patronage to certain island and coastal provinces such as Lato on Crete. He first tried &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;to invade Illyria from the sea, but with limited success. His first expedition in 216 BC had to be aborted, while he&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;suffered the loss of his whole fleet in a second expedition in 214 BC. A later expedition by land met with greater&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;success when he captured Lissus in 212 BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;216 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Philip V first tried to invade Illyria from the sea (during the First Macedonian War), but with limited success. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;His first expedition in 216 BC had to be aborted, while he suffered the loss of his whole fleet in a second &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;expedition in 214 BC. A later expedition by land met with greater success when he captured Lissus in 212 BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;215 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Philip V, King of Macedon enters into a treaty with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal"&gt;Hannibal&lt;/a&gt;, the Carthaginian general then in the middle of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;an invasion of Roman Italy.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;214 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_of_Pharos"&gt;Demetrius of Pharos&lt;/a&gt; dies. Demetrius of Pharos (also Pharus) was a ruler of Pharos&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;involved in the First Illyrian War, after which he ruled a portion of the Illyrian Adriatic coast on behalf of the Romans,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;as a Client king. He was expelled from Illyria by Rome after the Second Illyrian War and became a trusted&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;councilor at the court of Philip V of Macedon, where he remained until his death at Messene in 214 BC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;202 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal"&gt;Hannibal&lt;/a&gt;'s defeat at the Battle of Zama in 202 BC. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;200 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Wars"&gt;Macedonian War&lt;/a&gt;.  In 200 BC, with Carthage no longer a threat, the Romans declared war on Macedonia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;179 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_V_of_Macedon"&gt;Philip V&lt;/a&gt;, King of Macedon dies. Philip V  (238 BC – 179 BC) was King of Macedon from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;221 BC to 179 BC. Philip's reign was principally marked by an unsuccessful struggle with the emerging power &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of Rome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                However, his efforts were undermined by the pro-Roman policy of his younger son Demetrius, who was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;encouraged by Rome to consider the possibility of succession ahead of his older brother, Perseus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This eventually led to a quarrel between Perseus and Demetrius which forced Philip to reluctantly decide to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;execute Demetrius for treason in 180 BC. This decision had a severe impact on Philip's health and he died &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;a year later at Amphipolis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               He was succeeded by his eldest son Perseus, who ruled as the last king of Macedon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;168 BC     &lt;a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Third Illyrian War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                In 168 BC the Illyrian king Gentius allied himself with the Macedonians. First in 171 BC, he was allied with the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Romans against the Macedonians, but in 169 he changed sides and allied himself with Perseus of Macedon. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;He arrested two Roman legati and destroyed the cities of Apollonia and Dyrrhachium, which were allied with  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Rome. In 168 he was defeated at Scodra by a Roman force under L. Anicius Gallus, and in 167 brought to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Rome as a captive to participate in Gallus' triumph, after which he was interned in Iguvium.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;166 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last king of Macedon dies. Perseus (ca. 212 BC - 166 BC) was the last king (Basileus) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled the successor state in Macedon created upon the death of Alexander the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Great. He also has the distinction of being the last of the line, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;146 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Punic_War"&gt;Third Punic War&lt;/a&gt;, the city of Carthage was destroyed by the Romans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                It seems that the Liburna warship was used by the Romans during the Punic Wars and in the Second &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Macedonian War.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 84 BC    In 84 BC, the Roman consuls, enemies of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Cornelius_Sulla"&gt;Sulla&lt;/a&gt;, mobilized an army in Italy and tried to use Liburnia, probably some &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;outer island, to organize military campaign back to Italy, against Sulla, which failed due to bad weather conditions and low &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;morality of the soldiers, who massively escaped to their homes in Italy or refused to cross over the sea to Liburnia. The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Roman legions once again passed through the Liburnian territory, probably by sea along the coast, in their next expedition &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;against Dalmatae in 78 – 76 BC, started from the north, from Aquilea and Istria, to stabilize control of Dalmatian city Salona.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 87 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Mithridatic_War"&gt;First Mithridatic War&lt;/a&gt;   (southeastern border of the Black Sea) Asia Minor just before the First Mithridatic War&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               In the spring of 87 BC Sulla landed at Dyrrachium, Greece. Asia was occupied by the forces of Mithridates under&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the command of Archelaus. Sulla’s first target was Athens, ruled by a Mithridatic puppet; the tyrant Aristion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Sulla moved southeast, picking up supplies and reinforcements as he went. Sulla’s chief of staff was Lucullus, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;who went ahead of him to scout the way and negotiate with Bruttius Sura, the existing Roman commander in&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Greece. After speaking with Lucullus, Sura handed over the command of his troops to Sulla. At Chaeronea,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ambassadors from all the major cities of Greece (except Athens) met with Sulla, who impressed on them Rome's&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;determination to drive Mithridates from Greece and Asia Province. Sulla then advanced on Athens.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 78 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sulla dies.   &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Cornelius_Sulla"&gt;Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix&lt;/a&gt; (c. 138 BC – 78 BC), known commonly as Sulla, was a Roman general&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and statesman. He had the rare distinction of holding the office of consul twice, as well as that of dictator. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;He was one of the canonical great men of Roman history; included in the biographical collections of leading &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;generals and politicians, originating in the biographical compendium of famous Romans, published by Marcus&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Terentius Varro. In Plutarch's Sulla, in the famous series - Parallel Lives, Sulla is paired with the Spartan general&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and strategist Lysander.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;              Sulla's dictatorship came during a high point in the struggle between optimates and populares, the former seeking&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;to maintain the power of the oligarchy in the form of the Senate while the latter resorted in many cases to naked&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;populism, culminating in Caesar's dictatorship. Sulla was a highly original, gifted and skillful general, never losing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;a battle; he remains the only man in history to have attacked and occupied both Athens and Rome. His rival, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Gnaeus Papirius Carbo, described Sulla as having the cunning of a fox and the courage of a lion - but that it was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the former attribute that was by far the most dangerous. This mixture was later referred to by Machiavelli in his&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;description of the ideal characteristics of a ruler.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;              Sulla used his armies to march on Rome twice, and after the second he revived the office of dictator, which had not&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;been used since the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Punic_War"&gt;Second Punic War &lt;/a&gt;over a century before. He used his powers to enact a series of reforms to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Roman constitution, meant to restore the balance of power between the Senate and the Tribunes; he then&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;stunned the Roman World (and posterity) by resigning the dictatorship, restoring normal constitutional government,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and after his second Consulship, retiring to private life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;              Succeeded by     Gaius Julius Caesar in 49 BC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 59 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 59 BC &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyricum"&gt;Illyricum&lt;/a&gt; was assigned as a provincia (zone of responsibility) to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar"&gt;Julius Caesar&lt;/a&gt; and Liburnian Iadera was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;nominally proclaimed a Roman municipium, but real establishment of the Roman province occurred not earlier than in 33 BC. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Dalmatae soon recovered and stepped into conflict with the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians"&gt;Liburnians&lt;/a&gt; in 51 BC, probably because of possession of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;pasture grounds around Krka river, taking their city Promona.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 49 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Civil war between Caesar and Pompey in 49 BC affected all of the Roman Empire as well as Liburnia. In the same &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;year, near island of Krk, there was an important naval battle between armies of Caesar and Pompey, probably due to the local &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Liburnian support to one or another side. Caesar was supported by the urban Liburnian centres, like Iader, Aenona and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Curicum, while the rest of Liburnians supported Pompey, including city of Issa which citizens were in conflicts with Caesar &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;supporting Dalmatae from Salona. "Navy of Iader" (Zadar) probably equipped by mixed Liburnian&lt;br /&gt;  and Roman ships confronted &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;"Liburnian navy" in service to Pompey, equipped only with Liburnians in their liburna galleys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, the Liburnian naval force was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;dragged into the Roman civil war, partially by force, partially because of local interests of the participants. Caesar rewarded &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;his supporters in Liburnian Iader and Dalmatian Salona, by giving status of the Roman colonies to their communities, but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;battle was won by the Liburnian navy, which prolonged the civil war and ensured control of the Adriatic Sea to side aligned &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;with Pompey in next 2 years, until his final defeat in 48 BC. In the same year, Caesar sent his legions to take control of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;rebelled Illyricum province, and took the fortress of Promona from Dalmatian hands, making them submit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 35 BC&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all that period the Roman rule in only nominally established Illyricum province was concentrated only to a few &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;cities at the eastern Adriatic coast, such as Iader, Salona and Narona. Renewed Illyrian and Liburnian pirate activities &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;motivated &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus"&gt;Octavian&lt;/a&gt; to organize great military operation in Illyricum province in 35 BC, to finally stabilize Roman control of it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               Action was first concentrated on the coastal Illyrian tribes to the east of Narona, then it prolonged to the depth of the Illyrian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;territory, where continental tribes gave much stronger resistance. After return from inland of Illyricum, Octavian destroyed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Illyrian pirate communities in the islands of Melita (Mljet) and Korkyra Nigra (Korcula) and continued to Liburnia, where he &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;wiped out the last remains of the Liburnian naval forces, resolving problems of their renewed piratical activities in the bay of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Kvarner (sinus Flanaticus) and attempt to secede from Rome. Octavian commandeered all the Liburnian ships. Very soon &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;these galleys would play a decisive role in the battle near Actium.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               Octavian went for another expedition to the inland, against the Iapodes, from the Liburnian port of Senia (Senj) and conquered &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;their most important positions in 34 BC. In the next 2 years the Roman army, led by Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa fought hard &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;battles with the Dalmatae. Liburnians were not recorded the participants in this war but their most southern territories were &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;surely involved.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;               It is not certain whether &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liburnians"&gt;Liburnians&lt;/a&gt; joined the last Great Illyrian Revolt, this remains controversial, as the only evidence is a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;damaged inscription found in Verona, mentioning Iapodes and Liburnians under an unknown leader.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  6 AD&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In AD 6, the Pannonians, with the Dalmatians and other Illyrian tribes, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_revolt"&gt;revolted&lt;/a&gt;, and were overcome by Tiberius and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Germanicus, after a hard-fought campaign which lasted for three years. After the rebellion was crushed in AD 9, the province &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of Illyricum was dissolved, and its lands were divided between the new provinces of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia"&gt;Pannonia&lt;/a&gt; in the north and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalmatia"&gt;Dalmatia&lt;/a&gt; in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;south. The date of the division is unknown, most certainly after AD 20 but before AD 50. The proximity of dangerous barbarian &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;tribes (Quadi, Marcomanni) necessitated the presence of a large number of troops&lt;br /&gt;(seven legions in later times), and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;numerous fortresses were built on the bank of the Danube.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=" font-weight: bold;font-family:Arial;" &gt;notes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Liburnians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;mid 4th century BC   The first account of the Liburni comes from Periplus or Coastal passage, an ancient Greek text.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Fall of Liburnian domination in the Adriatic Sea and their final retreat to their ethnic region (Liburnia) were caused by military &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and political activities of Dionysius the Elder of Syracuse (406 – 367 BC, now Sicily). The imperial power base of this Syracusan tyrant &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;stemmed from a huge naval fleet of 300 tetreras and penteras. When he finished Carthaginian authority and diminished &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;concurrence in Sicily, Dionysius the Elder of Syracuse turned against the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscans"&gt;Etruscans&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The middle of the 3rd century BC was marked by the rise of an Illyrian kingdom in the south of the Adriatic Sea, led by king &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Agron of the Ardiaei. Its piratical activities imperiled Greek and Roman interests in the Adriatic Sea and caused the first &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Roman intervention at the eastern coast in 229 BC; Florus (II,5) noted the Liburnians as the Roman enemies in this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;expedition, while Appian (Bell. Civ., II, 39) noted liburnae as swift galleys the Romans first fought with when they entered to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Adriatic Sea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Roman wars followed in conflicts with Pyrrhus, Carthage, Macedonia and southern Illyrian state. However, although their &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;territory was not involved in these confrontations, it seems that the Liburna warship was used by the Romans during the Punic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Wars and in the Second Macedonian War.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=" font-weight: bold;font-family:Arial;" &gt;Problems with this DNA analysis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Any given country can have a variable amount of genetic distance per location (per individual). The values used here were mostly modals, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and the migration sequence can vary depending upon what is considered to be the modal. For example, Scotland appears to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;have numerous groups of I1 individuals that migrated (into Scotland), but only one group is actually represented by the modal. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Further delineation might be obtained by division of each country into separate migrating "groups." Theoretically, the best &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;resolution would be obtained by including all individuals and scaling to the Norman Conquest. However, there isn't enough &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;DNA data available to apply this properly for the very early time periods in the area of the Mediterranean. At the current time, there are only scant samples from Croatia, Slovenia, and the Czech Republic to support an approximate time frame for an exodus from Croatia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Y-DNA studies have been underway for nearly a decade now, but the science is still fairly new.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A possible problem with the Time to Most Recent Ancestor (TMRCA) has recently been suggested to be indicated by interclade ages (i.e., Nordvedt). It has been suggested that interclade ages might be younger than previously published material suggests. For any given Y-search study, there is typically a maximum genetic distance reached per search. Theoretically, this might be an indication of other things, such as maximum TMRCA returned from a certain number of STR markers tested, or perhaps could also indicate if any bottlenecks may have occurred in recent history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the SNP classification is not restricted from the search criteria, then other haplotype group classifications can be returned from a genetic distance based search. It might be instructive to view a scientific study on what the expected genetic distance limits might be (returned) between the various haplotype group (SNP) classifications for a given number of STR markers tested. Such a study might provide some information regarding the value of scaling modals to a known event, such as the Norman Conquest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In effect, what is needed are more robust modal values from the region surrounding the Black Sea, but particularly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;from the Balkan peninsula. Basically, there are few results from the Balkan peninsula, and a greater genetic distance would be expected from that area if this timeline is to be confirmed or denied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the current thinking on interclade ages is not correct, then Y-Search might include other classifications than I1 individuals, but should retain the M170 SNP.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For example, the previously I1b category (now I) is thought to have originated near Croatia, according to population density studies (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Rootsi2004.pdf"&gt;Rootsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;, et. al.). (I1b is not a significant portion of the Nowegian population.) This suggests that I1b could have been a significant portion of the Liburnian population. A younger interclade age could mean that I1b results might be a valid comparison to I1 (in terms of using Y-DNA to date samples from the Balkan area, etc).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, there were no known Native American I1 samples used in the study. (Currently, there is no way to distinguish Native American Y-DNA samples from the rest of the U.S. population.) Since it is expected that I1 would follow the M170 SNP tree back to the Black Sea area, this should not be a problem. If, however the age of Native American I1 samples pre-date the the arrival on the east coast of Europe, then this could be significant in terms of I1 origins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                           &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;To post a comment, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-7652145295258477104?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/7652145295258477104/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=7652145295258477104' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/7652145295258477104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/7652145295258477104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/viking-origins-and-y-dna.html' title='Viking Origins and Y-DNA'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9ESymDDiwUw/TZAkGkhRI7I/AAAAAAAAAYM/jhkwhfp2j0A/s72-c/Liburnia_1st_AD_small.PNG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-6071595805713367006</id><published>2011-03-14T23:38:00.033-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-23T14:35:41.286-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Y-DNA and Viking Migration'/><title type='text'>Y-DNA and Viking Migration</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: arial; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: #666600;"&gt;&lt;big style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Y-DNA and Viking Migration&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #000099; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Y-DNA analysis of STR information can provide clues to Viking migration in recent time frames.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #000099; font-weight: bold;"&gt;  The Y-DNA STR Genetic Distance suggests that the Norse (Vikings) could  have originated from seafaring peoples of the Mediterranean Sea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #000099; font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float: left; padding: 4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share" type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" share_url="data:post.url" type="box_count"&gt; Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&amp;amp;gt;Share on&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;Facebook&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt; widget and many other &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&amp;amp;gt;great free widgets&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt; at &amp;amp;lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&amp;amp;gt;Widgetbox&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt;! Not seeing a widget? (&amp;amp;lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&amp;amp;gt;More&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;info&amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big face="arial" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Introduction&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Ever since the National Genographic Project began, DNA has been a useful tool to analyze migration patterns of various indigenous peoples. The National Genographic Project typically uses a combination of Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNP) and a limited number of Short Tandem Repeats (STR). The analysis of a larger number of STR's can be used to provide clues to Viking &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;migration in recent times.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The technique has been used successfully in the past by the HAM DNA Project in order to provide clues to the ancestral origins of the participan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;ts. An extension of the technique can be used to help understand the migration patterns of the Norse peoples, often referred to as Vikings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It would appear, however, that nobody has attempted to analyze the the migration patterns of the Norse groups up to this time. In this study, Y-Search data for the HAM DNA Group #1 was used. This group has been previously shown to have an ancestral haplotype that corresponds to the modal for the I1 (M253) haplotype group. Therefore, the results may apply to a number of I1 groups. For example, HAM DNA Group #7 has German origins, and the findings of this analysis can also be applied to this separate I1 group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, HAM DNA Group #1 contains an individual with known ancestors from County Somerset, England. The HAM surname for this area has been documented back to Taunton circa 1250 A.D. There is an ancient Norman castle in Taunton, and other Norman strongholds in that area of County Somerset. Additionally, County Somerset was not settled by the Danes, providing further support that the arrival of haplotype group I1 in County Somerset, England was with the Norman invasion of 1066. It is important to note this, as the time scale (below) has been dated to the time of the Norman Conquest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big face="Arial" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Previous Background:  Scientific Studies&lt;/big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Siiri Rootsi, et. al., (2004) was perhaps one of the first to suggest haplotype I1 origins in Norway. More recently, Alexander Shtrunov has written about the I1 (M253) origins in Eastern Europe. They did use a limited number of STR values in order to infer population frequencies. Regarding haplotype I1a (now reclassified as 'I1'), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Siiri Rootsi, et. al. noted&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;   &lt;small&gt; "Subclade I1a accounts for most of Hg I in Scandinavia, with a rapidly decreasing frequency toward both&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt; the East European Plain and the Atlantic fringe, but microsatellite diversity reveals that France could be the source region of the early spread of both I1a and the less common I1c. Also, I1b*, which extends from the eastern Adriatic to eastern Europe and declines noticeably toward the southern Balkans and abruptly toward the periphery of northern Italy, probably diffused after the Last Glacial Maximum from a homeland in eastern Europe or the Balkans. In contrast, I1b2 most likely arose in southern France/Iberia. Similarly to the other subclades, it underwent a postglacial expansion and marked the human colonization of Sardinia ∼9,000 years ago...."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt;"Previous studies revealed that Hg I reached a frequency of ∼40%–50% in two distinct regions—in Nordic populations of Scandinavia and, in southern Europe, around the Dinaric Alps—each showing different background STR modal haplotypes (Semino et al. 2000; Passarino et al. 2002; Barac´ et al. 2003)."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-POCqs9BvMUA/TX8KEFhEZ4I/AAAAAAAAAX0/vYS7pT-w2qk/s1600/I1_map_Rootsi_2004.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5584193128279336834" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-POCqs9BvMUA/TX8KEFhEZ4I/AAAAAAAAAX0/vYS7pT-w2qk/s400/I1_map_Rootsi_2004.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 206px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 315px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; I1 density map, Rootsi et. al., 2004  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;big face="arial"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Rootsi et. al. had recognized that I1 was observed in high frequencies among Norse (or Scandinavian) populations. Here, they speculate early origins in France, and mentions the locations of I1 in France, Scandinavia, and the Dinaric Alps. They also mention I1b in the Balkans &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;and northern Italy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Ken Nordvedt is a widely known researcher of the Norse populations. He has categorized the various DNA patterns into a number of different Norse groups, largely based upon STR patterns. It should be noted that Ken has recently commented on the Genealogy-DNA email list (Dec 26, 2010) that after examination of I1 interclade ages:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;pre style="font-family: arial;" wrap=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;      "TMRCA for AS1 is 70 generations; TMRCA for AS2 is 64 generations, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; the interclade node age between them is 180 generations estimated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;   So perhaps you can see why I conclude that the overall I1 TMRCA lived 4000 to 4500 years ago?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 100%;"&gt;For the purposes of this study, it is useful to be aware that dating Y-DNA samples using STR values is still under development, and that Y-DNA SNP dating is, at least, arguable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;David Faux has written separately on the Cimbri people, an element of the Danish Vikings who lived between the 9th to 11th centuries (2007).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Alexander Shtrunov has written (2010) about the Vikings in Eastern Europe and Russia, an&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;d has some discussion of various tribes, such as the Goths, the Varangians, the Sami people, the Arensburgian people, Swiderian, etc. He appears to have analyzed the DNA for SNP population frequencies, combining genetics, archeology, linguistics, anthropology. For I1 in Eastern Europe, he suggests:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;   &lt;small&gt;"Roots of haplogroup I1 evidently came from such Paleolithic cultures as Ahrensburgian and Swiderian; its carriers represented were the part of autochthonous population of Northern and Eastern Europe."&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The National Genographic Project has current information about I1 (M253) migration paths online, and should be publishing the final results of the Project in the future. Past migration maps of the I1 haplotype had shown an overland route through the mountains of Europe, north of the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Mediterranean Sea upwards to Norway, then back down the western coast of Europe to France and England. This has traditionally been displayed as an overland route to Norway.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The current National Genographic web page for M253 is out of date, as the web page for M253 is still using the old "I1a" nomenclature (Family Tree DNA reclassified this as "I1" in May, 2008):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;pre style="font-family: arial;" wrap=""&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;big face="arial"&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;big face="Arial" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bI1LqUPhwgA/TX8JTox-0OI/AAAAAAAAAXs/-0VCcYDjF0U/s1600/I1_M253_Nat_Geno_031411_half.JPG"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5584192295931924706" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bI1LqUPhwgA/TX8JTox-0OI/AAAAAAAAAXs/-0VCcYDjF0U/s400/I1_M253_Nat_Geno_031411_half.JPG" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 301px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 400px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; National Genographic map&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This (Viking Migration Y-DNA STR) study suggests that the I1 haplotype possibly took a sea route from the Mediterranean Sea (perhaps Sicily), first landing in the Netherlands.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Regarding  the HAM DNA Project, the National Genographic Project shows&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;For I1, the SNP's are:&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;"Adam" -&amp;gt; M168 -&amp;gt; M89 -&amp;gt; M170  -&amp;gt; M258 ( -&amp;gt; M253 -&amp;gt; M307)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;          Migrated from the middle east along the northern coast of the Mediterranean Sea, then finally migrating north along the east coast of Europe. (Entered the area of Norway)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;For I1b, the SNP's are:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;"Adam" -&amp;gt; M168 -&amp;gt; M89 -&amp;gt; M170 -&amp;gt; M258 (Negative for M253 and M307 )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;      Migrated from the middle east along the northern coast of the Mediterranean Sea, then finally migrating north along the east coast of Europe. (did not enter Norway)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The focus of the data was on the Genetic Distance for the I1 haplotype STR values. Other haplotypes that may have been included in the data would be the I1d haplotype group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;There is an I1 Project at Family Tree DNA that summarizes a number of the Nordvedt and various I haploype group (SNP) categories. This web site presents the raw data from FTDNA participants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The Procedure&lt;/big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Using the I1 ancestral haplotype of the HAM DNA Project (Group #1, the ancestral haplotype previously determined), the Y-Search database was utilized to obtain matches on 35 to 42 markers. This returned about 1,000 kits that matched the haplotype given.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The number of STR markers used typically numbered 67, with a maximum at about 96 STR markers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Genetic Distance typically ranged from 15 to 25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;There are about 39 mutating markers for the I1 haplotype in this study.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The output was then sorted by Country of origin, ignoring the results from the United States and Canada.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;For each Country of origin, the STR marker values were provided as input into Dean McGee's Y-DNA Utility. A modal value was obtained for each country of origin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;These modal values (of countries of origin) were then provided as input into Dean McGee's Utility again, this time without computing the modal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The output was then run through the "Kitsch" program of the PHYLIP software package for proper rooting of the resulting tree. The phylogenetic tree was then examined graphically for time scale. The Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor of these modals (as given by McGee's Utility) was suspect, having known the time of the Norman Conquest (i.e., 1066). &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Therefore, the resulting phylogenetic tree was then scaled, using the Norman Conquest as a basis for the time frames on display.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;pre style="font-family: arial;" wrap=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;big face="arial"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vAp5uGLVxHc/TX8GblwNXjI/AAAAAAAAAXc/OsA9GTG6-mM/s1600/I1_geographic_table.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5584189134023253554" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vAp5uGLVxHc/TX8GblwNXjI/AAAAAAAAAXc/OsA9GTG6-mM/s400/I1_geographic_table.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 165px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 427px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vAp5uGLVxHc/TX8GblwNXjI/AAAAAAAAAXc/OsA9GTG6-mM/s1600/I1_geographic_table.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; I1 geographic modal values by country of origin &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ]  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The modal table (above) shows some 39 mutating markers by country of origin. Generated by Dean McGee's Y-DNA Utility, it color codes some of the markers by Genetic Distance from the reference (row #1).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The mutating markers that appear to be useful for geographic identification include DYS464d, DYS576, CDYb, DYS413a, DYS635, DYS494, DYS522, and DYS549.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Findings&lt;/big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The resulting tree shows a common entry into England. This resulted from using the I1 modals for the participants that indicated separate origins from England and Scotland. At the time of the Conquest, England and Scotland were united into one country, so the DNA results appear to reflect that properly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;pre style="font-family: arial;" wrap=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;big face="arial"&gt;&lt;big face="Arial" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1KHqGClyqo4/TX8Hy2MXYWI/AAAAAAAAAXk/IAeRPyzb2Is/s1600/outtree_Origins_Timeline.JPG"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5584190633084936546" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1KHqGClyqo4/TX8Hy2MXYWI/AAAAAAAAAXk/IAeRPyzb2Is/s400/outtree_Origins_Timeline.JPG" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 400px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 354px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; Phylogenetic Tree of modals for various countries &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;What the Y-DNA modals (per region) revealed was that each country typically displayed separate times of origin. That is, the genetic distance was found to correspond to region.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;An overland route through Switzerland might be suspected if the Genetic Distance had reflected that. However, the Y-DNA suggests that Switzerland was a migration point much later than that of that of Scandinavia. That is to say, the Genetic Distance to the Netherlands suggests that the Netherlands as one of the first (if not the first) point of entry into northern Europe. An alternative overland route would be through Austria. Austria does appear to have early origins. However, it ia hard to explain an overland route to Austria with the data available for this study. The Y-DNA STR values suggest that Austria began to be settled at about the same time as Finland, Spain, and France. During this period (roughly the 4th century), it is apparent that the countries were being settled by I1 via sea routes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Settlement of the I1 haplotype in Austria is perhaps, better explained by a sea route as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Also, it is well known that the Norse (Vikings) were very skilled with ships. This is reinforced by the Genetic Distance from the Y-DNA. It makes sense that that a path of migration could have been by sea, with a departure from the Mediterranean Sea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; and arrival in the Netherlands.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Problem discussion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;There are some basic problems with the analysis:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;a) The data was limited to less than 100 STR markers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;per individual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;b) There is limited data available from the Y-Search database, notably limited information from I1 participants in Sicilly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;     The early arrival in Portugal may support the theory of seafaring people from the Mediterranean. This data could be questioned given the scope of the Roman Empire, and not knowing how long the participants have actually lived in Sicily. On the other hand, Norse settlement in Sicily has been dated by some to the 11th century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Norman Conquest timeline is supported by the Tune Runestone in Oestfold, Norway, which has been dated to the 5th century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;More archeological evidence should show whether or not the theory is valid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;c) This study presumes previous SNP testing for I1, and does no real analysis of SNP data.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d) The timeline reported from these utilities can change, depending upon the data in use.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;     Proper scaling of Y-DNA phylogenetic trees along a timeline is not currently reliable, due to the relatively low number of markers currently being tested. Carbon dating is typically used instead.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e) This study makes no attempt to include other Norse haplotype, such as R1b or R1a.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;f) Finally, this study ignored DNA results for I1 in North America. Which is to say, no attempt was made to locate Native American I1 modal values. Following the M170 migration route would suggest that Viking migration was not from the Americas, but no attempt was made to confirm this with haplotype group I1 STR values from Native Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Summary&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;When the Y-DNA STR marker data is separated by location, a modal can be derived for each location. Each modal for each country then appear to indicate marker differences that may reflect the location. When the modals are then examined for Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor, a continuous migration trail is implied.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The data suggests that the Norse Vikings perhaps originated as seafaring peoples from the area of the Mediterranean Sea (perhaps from Sicily). These people appear to date from the very early Roman period. (The city of Rome is believed to have been founded in 753 B.C., but archeological evidence suggests a slightly earlier date.) The DNA suggests that the initial point of entry of the I1 haplotype into Scandinavia appears to be from the Netherlands.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The phylogenetic tree suggests a possible Norse migration in this order:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Sicily --&amp;gt; Netherlands  --&amp;gt; Finland -&amp;gt; France -&amp;gt; Denmark -&amp;gt; Norway -&amp;gt; England, Scotland  &amp;amp; Germany&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;2500  &amp;lt;---   2010       &amp;lt;---  1700   &amp;lt;---   1500 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&amp;lt;---     1300&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &amp;lt;---  1300  &amp;lt;---      1000               &amp;lt;---         (rough est. of years ago)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It is important to note that the entrance of the I1 haplotype into France is indicated to have happened much earlier than the settlement of Normandy (in the 9th century). The phylogenetic tree suggests that the Vikings should have entered France some 400 years earlier (circa 375 A.D.).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Y-DNA STR data regarding France suggests a correlation to the quote from Rootsi (2004) that the early spread of I1 could have been through France.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Here, we find France and Denmark to be one of the early locations, but the entrance into Eastern Europe appears to have been earlier than through France. This study shows that the I1 entrance into Europe began in the Netherlands, Russia, and Belgium circa 100 A.D.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor roughly estimated by using McGee's Utility on the modals for STR markers, then scaling to the time of the Norman Conquest. Carbon dating of the archeological evidence from these locations may provide a more robust timeline. In particular, better evidence may require more Y-DNA STR markers, or a better study of M170 in the area of the Black Sea. More Y-DNA testing in the area of the Mediterranean may provide better evidence for an earlier point of origin.&lt;/span&gt; Alternatively, Y-Search could be used with a greater Genetic Distance to search to search for M170 matches near the Black Sea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;note:  edits added 03/16/2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;update 03/21/2011:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been able to use Y-Search to find a minimal amount of (I1) Y-DNA samples for 9 additional countries. Of interest to this study is the timeline for Sicily appears to hold using minimal data from Romania, Turkey, and the Ukraine. Using the data for the area around the Black Sea, the sequence appears to be more like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;232 B.C.  Croatia&lt;br /&gt;324 B.C.             Romania&lt;br /&gt;624 B.C.             Turkey  &lt;br /&gt;662 B.C.             Sicily                    &lt;br /&gt;887 B.C.             Ukraine&lt;br /&gt;1075 B.C.            Slovenia&lt;br /&gt;1300 B.C.            Czech Republic&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The DNA information from Croatia suggests that Croatia may have been the departure point to Portugal and the Netherlands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which suggests that the time line for Sicily is supported by data from Romania, Turkey, and the Ukraine. What is interesting is the data from Slovenia and the Czech Republic. This suggests a period of migration of this I1 group in and around the Black Sea prior to the beginning of the (more bold) Mediterranean adventures.&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;update September, 2011:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The results of the STR modal TMRCA estimates have been graphically mapped here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/09/mapping-viking-migration-with-y-dna.html"&gt;http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/09/mapping-viking-migration-with-y-dna.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;big&gt;References&lt;/big&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Siiri Rootsi, et. al., "Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I Reveals Distinct Domains of Prehistoric Gene Flow in Europe" Am. J. Hum. Genet. 75:128–137, 2004&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Alexander Shtrunov, "The origin of haplogroup I1-M253 in Eastern Europe" The Russian Journal of Genetic Genealogy: Vol 1, No. 2, 2010      &lt;a href="http://ru.rjgg.org/"&gt;http://ru.rjgg.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Ken Nordvedt                &lt;a href="http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/"&gt;http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Ken Nordvedt:          Genealogy-DNA email list at rootsweb (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com ),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;                           Subject: "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;[DNA] I1 L22- interclade ages," Sun, 26 Dec 2010.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;David Faux  "The Cimbri Nation of Jutland, Denmark and the Danelaw, England: A Chronological Approach Based on Diverse Data Sources" Sep., 2007   &lt;a href="http://www.davidkfaux.org/Cimbri-Chronology.pdf"&gt;http://www.davidkfaux.org/Cimbri-Chronology.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The National Genographic Project              &lt;a href="https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/"&gt;https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com&lt;/a&gt;/genographic/index.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The  I1 Project at FTDNA          &lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/yDNA_I1/default.aspx?section=ycolorized"&gt;http://www.familytreedna.com/public/yDNA_I1/default.aspx?section=ycolorized&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Y-Search          &lt;a href="http://www.ysearch.org/"&gt;http://www.ysearch.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dean McGee's Y-DNA Utility            &lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode"&gt;http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The PHYLIP software package       &lt;a href="http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html"&gt;http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;HAM DNA I1 (Group #1) Ancestral haplotype:    &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;          &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/Groups/HAM_DNA_Group001_ANCESTRAL.html"&gt;http://home.earthlink.net/~odoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/Groups/HAM_DNA_Group001_ANCESTRAL.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Wikipedia page on Ancient Rome:                &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Wikipedia page on the Tune Runestone from Oestfold, Norway:       &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_funeral"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_funeral&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'How to Read HAM DNA Phylograms'    You Tube video   &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-49T2p-SyQ"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-49T2p-SyQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;                                                                                                                                                                      &lt;span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;"&gt;to comment, click on the title and scroll to the bottom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-6071595805713367006?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/6071595805713367006/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=6071595805713367006' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6071595805713367006'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6071595805713367006'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2011/03/y-dna-and-viking-migration.html' title='Y-DNA and Viking Migration'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-POCqs9BvMUA/TX8KEFhEZ4I/AAAAAAAAAX0/vYS7pT-w2qk/s72-c/I1_map_Rootsi_2004.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-8388022667854581172</id><published>2010-08-27T02:31:00.010-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-27T02:59:13.587-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Devon Family Historian and the Devon DNA Project'/><title type='text'>Devon Family Historian and the Devon DNA Project</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;The Devon Family Historian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:arial;" &gt;and the Devon DNA Project&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;August, 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/THdeTUG7jzI/AAAAAAAAAWU/KPpgmrN1xzc/s1600/Devon_Family_Historian_logo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 106px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/THdeTUG7jzI/AAAAAAAAAWU/KPpgmrN1xzc/s400/Devon_Family_Historian_logo.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5509976355019394866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Debbie Kennett has just published an article entitled "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNA Testing And The Devon DNA Project&lt;/span&gt;" in the August, 2010 issue of the &lt;a href="http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/index.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon Family Historian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. In the article, she mentions that partial sponsorship is available for the HAM DNA Project, among others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Debbie tells me that the Devon Family Historian is circulated to all members of the Devon Family History Society. They are one of the largest family history societies in the UK with around 5000 members. She believes that only the Cornish Family History Society is larger. Debbie says that she hopes the article will at least raise awareness of the possibilities of DNA testing and perhaps encourage a few more people to test.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've already had a new inquiry about the DNA testing as a result of the article. She descends from Walter Ham,  who married Margery Minkings on 26/03/1758 in Maker, County Devon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the article, Debbie provides a review of the development of DNA testing over the past 10 years. She gives a good description of the Y-chromosome tests, the Mitochondrial DNA tests, and the Autosomal DNA tests. She then follows with general information about the surname DNA Projects and the (geographical) Devon DNA Project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;For a little perspective on what I have for Devon, I will include here a summary of occurrences in our book. County Devon (HAM surname) FREQUENCIES from "&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Devon in the 1500's       total references:  29&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devon in the 1600's       total references:  34&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devon in the 1700's       total references:  23&lt;br /&gt;----------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 1700's saw the most significant migration of the HAM surname moving from Colyton, but it would appear that there were also evacuations in lesser quantities from Ashwater, Halberton, Hemyock, Oakford, Plymouth, Shute, Tiverton, and Uplowman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Marvin Hamm (of the HAM DNA Project) has written me with Census information that has:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devon with 161 Ham's listed for the 1861 Census.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For reference, Marvin found about 18 HAM's in Plymouth in 1861. And, indeed, Marvin tells me that the 1861 Census shows no HAM families in the towns of Ashwater, Halberton, Hemyock, Oakford, Shute, Tiverton, and Uplowman. This agrees with the differences in our book, and may be an indication of migration, although the destination is not yet clear. We have not yet determined if these HAM families could have moved to Cornwall, or whether or not they could have migrated to America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/THdfUE4uJdI/AAAAAAAAAWc/y-MKwNXnIT8/s1600/Devon_County02_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 396px; height: 400px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/THdfUE4uJdI/AAAAAAAAAWc/y-MKwNXnIT8/s400/Devon_County02_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5509977467624760786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best evidence we have to date for migration is for one of the first progenitors of the HAM surname in the U.S., William HAM of Maine. Originally contracted to fish, he was part of the Trelawney expedition. The Trelawney expedition originated from Plymouth. The Maine HAM lines have done some research in the area of Devon, but to date, neither the Maine HAM lines nor the Devon HAM lines have tested for Y-DNA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a little town called "Ham" (now called Ham Ward) near the city of Plymouth.  There have been several Mayors of Plymouth named Trelawny, but near the time frame of 1635 there were Mayors:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1626-27     Thomas Sherwill    1627-28     Robert Trelawney&lt;br /&gt;1628-29     Nicholas Sherwill and Abraham Colmer    1629-30     William Hele&lt;br /&gt;1630-31     John Bownd&lt;br /&gt;1631-32     John Waddon Jnr    1632-33     Philip Andrews&lt;br /&gt;1633-34     Rob Trelawney Jnr    1634-35     John Martyn Jnr&lt;br /&gt;1635-36     Thomas Crampporn    1636-37     John Cawse&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having a small town named Ham near Plymouth, and associated with the Trelawney Expedition does provide a clue that this HAM line may have originated from this small town of Ham, near Plymouth in County Devon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Copies of some of the Trelawney documents can be ordered from the UK National Archives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hopefully, the article in this month's Devon Family Historian will encourage a few more people to test for DNA.&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Some internet links that might be useful:&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Searching the UK National Archives at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=28"&gt;http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=28&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Plymouth City Council&lt;br /&gt;List of Mayors from 1600 to 1700&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/councilanddemocracy/lordmayoralty/mayors/mayors1600-1700.htm"&gt;http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/councilanddemocracy/lordmayoralty/mayors/mayors1600-1700.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;A map of the area shows the area known as Ham, near Plymouth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=248899&amp;amp;y=54192&amp;amp;z=5&amp;amp;sv=248899,54192&amp;amp;st=4&amp;amp;ar=Y&amp;amp;mapp=newmap.srf&amp;amp;searchp=newsearch.srf&amp;amp;dn=795&amp;amp;ax=248899&amp;amp;ay=54192"&gt;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=248899&amp;amp;y=54192&amp;amp;z=5&amp;amp;sv=248899,54192&amp;amp;st=4&amp;amp;ar=Y&amp;amp;mapp=newmap.srf&amp;amp;searchp=newsearch.srf&amp;amp;dn=795&amp;amp;ax=248899&amp;amp;ay=54192&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;If you are a member of the Devon Family History Society, you can download the Devon Family Historian article in Adobe PDF format.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon Family History Society&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;PO Box 9&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exeter, EX2 6YP, UNITED KINGDOM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/index.htm"&gt;http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon DNA Project:   &lt;/span&gt;                  &lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna/public/Devon"&gt;www.familytreedna/public/Devon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="float: left; padding: 4px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;a share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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To solve the mystery of where the gold came from, to whom it belonged and why it was buried, historians take us on a journey back into the Dark Ages."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Staffordshire Hoard is the largest  hoard of Anglo-Saxon gold ever found.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Discovered near Watling Street, Staffordshire. (One of the major thoroughfares of Roman Britain. The thoroughfare ran from for about 250 miles from Dover past Wroxeter.) The first pieces of the Staffordshire Hoard were found in early July 2009 by Mr Terry Herbert while he was metal detecting in a field in southern Staffordshire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p  style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Finds included sword fittings, part of a  helmet and three gold Christian crosses. Most of the complete objects are made of gold. Some are decorated with pieces of garnet, a deep red semi-precious stone, others with fine filigree work or patterns made up of animals with interlaced bodies. The r&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ed garnet gems are thought to be from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;as far away as India or Sri Lanka.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Current thinking dates the hoard to  the later 600s or earlier 700s AD.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;There's nothing like seeing some news about possible ancestors of a HAM DNA Project participant. I ran a Y-Search in 2007, and found &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;some  evidence of a match for DNA participant Josh Ham to Staffordshire,  England.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;There is probably more data collected  from Y-Search today, but this is what I found for HAM DNA &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/Groups/HAM_DNA_Group007_Y-SEARCH.html"&gt;Group  #7 from the Y-Search of &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;2007:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;-----------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ENGLAND:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;From the totals that I have for England, and without going to very much trouble of attempting to determine the name of the County &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;for the cities, I get a rough account of the results that look  something like this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Staffordshire           (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  Kingstone, Staffordshire         1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire  1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Bedfordshire           (2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; Stanbridge, Bedfordshire       1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Middlesex               2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;others (less than 4 each):             18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I might want to repeat here that this  haplotype is also known as "I1b2a," but here the search is for "I1c."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It is apparent that from the locations in England, the most likely locations of origin should be closely matched by Staffordshire, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;followed next by  Bedfordshire and Middlesex. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;-----------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Josh is actually haplotype I2b, renamed by FTDNA in 2007 from haplotype I1c. This Y-Search is now out of date, and there should be more DNA data available today. Josh descends from Stephen HAM of Culpeper County, Virginia. This Stephen is believed to be the son of Edward HAM, and possibly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;descends from Samuel HAM of Orange County, Virginia. This is still to be confirmed, as we are still waiting for more direct descendants &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;of the Orange County or Culpeper County Ham line to participate in the DNA Project. I believe some descendants of Samuel Ham may still be living in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Orange County today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The HAM DNA Y-Search that I did gives an indication that Josh may be from County Stafford. As we know, the Ham surname is a place name, taken from local towns of the name when surnames were adopted. &lt;a href="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Britain.html"&gt;Staffordshire is  located in Western England&lt;/a&gt;, between Lancashire and Worcestershire. I am not currently aware of a town called "Ham" in Staffordshire. However, research for our book does  indicate the HAM surname to be in use in Middlesex.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;From the Y-Search (above),  Kingstone is about 15 miles from Stoke upon Trent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From that Y-Search, Stanbridge, Bedfordshire would be about 100 miles  away from the locations in Staffordshire. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In  County Stafford, parishes in the vicinity would include St. Chad and  St. Mary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In County Middlesex, parishes would include Clerkenwell (or Clarkenwell) and would be about 135 miles (or 217 km) away from Staffordshire. London would be about 135 miles away from Staffordshire, but London is only about 35 miles away from Bedfordshire. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only mention in our book of County Bedford is in the will of Adam FRIDAY, dated 1412 (mentions Richard HALM'). That would be in the vicinity of Weston, Multon, and Holbech. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't have much about this haplotype group "I2b," but the Y-Search also showed matches in Northern Ireland and Scotland. If not a variant of the Vikings or Danes, then I would suspect "I2b" could be either Saxon or Roman. (It would appear that most native peoples of England were R1b.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Although I am overdue on updating the Y-Search, participants in the DNA Project are helping us to recognize the possible origins of the HAM surname.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:Arial;" &gt;further  information:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;-----------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Staffordshire  Hoard web site&lt;/span&gt;, images, &amp;amp; Information page:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   (has village reconstruction, news,  pictures of artifacts, etc.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lost  Gold of the Dark Ages&lt;/span&gt;  (the Staffordshire hoard video)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;from the National Geographic channel:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/lost-gold-of-the-dark-ages-5121/Overview"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/lost-gold-of-the-dark-ages-5121/Overview&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;British  Museum exhibit&lt;/span&gt;   (the hoard on display November 3, 2009 through  Apr 17, 2010 )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.britishmuseum.org/whats_on/all_current_exhibitions/the_staffordshire_hoard.aspx"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;http://www.britishmuseum.org/whats_on/all_current_exhibitions/the_staffordshire_hoard.aspx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;British  Museum press release&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.britishmuseum.org/the_museum/news_and_press_releases/press_releases/2009/staffordshire_hoard_valuation.aspx"&gt;http://www.britishmuseum.org/the_museum/news_and_press_releases/press_releases/2009/staffordshire_hoard_valuation.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Book &lt;/span&gt;on  sale at the British Museum:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.britishmuseumshoponline.org/invt/cmc23288"&gt;http://www.britishmuseumshoponline.org/invt/cmc23288&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/Groups/HAM_DNA_Group007_Y-SEARCH.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;HAM DNA Project Group # 7 Y-Search&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;GENUKI &lt;a href="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Britain.html"&gt;County map of Britain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding: 4px; float: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt; Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on&lt;br /&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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We can try to gather what is known about Jerome HAM of Bristol by examination of  another book, this time published in 1867 on Mary OLIVER.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Following last month's article on the Will of Elizabeth OLYVER, I wanted to pass along a bit more information about the wife of Jerome HAM of Bristol. In the previous NEHGS article, it suggested that we also view the document "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://books.google.com/books/download/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver__who_lived_1640_.pdf?id=j1BBAAAAMAAJ&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=ACfU3U3h2gUTdDSSN_QvObHtsiWsIsl9lg"&gt;Ancestry of Mary OLIVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;," by William S. Appleton, privately published by John Wilson and Son in Cambridge in 1867.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Mary OLIVER was born in Massachusetts in 1640 and is listed as the great granddaughter to John OLIVER and wife Elizabeth ROWLAND.  This is the Elizabeth OLIVER that married 2nd) Jerome HAM in 1599.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(see the 1867 book, page 45 of this PDF, listed as page 6 of the chapter on "Pedigrees" - about page 30 of the document).&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The work was an attempt by William Appleton to track some documentation of the line of his ancestor John OLIVER of Newbury, MA. The document begins in this country with John OLIVER, born in Bristol in 1613. John was apprenticed to his uncle in 1629, when his father James OLIVER died. James OLIVER was the son of John OLIVER and wife Elizabeth ROWLAND.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This John OLIVER (b. 1613) of Newbury, MA was the grandson of Elizabeth OLIVER and father to Mary OLIVER born in 1640.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Pedigree of Mary OLIVER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try  {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S7F5_0fXOPI/AAAAAAAAAVE/jVcI9Z_HTQo/s1600/Ancestry_of_Mary_OLIVER_pedegree.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 246px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S7F5_0fXOPI/AAAAAAAAAVE/jVcI9Z_HTQo/s400/Ancestry_of_Mary_OLIVER_pedegree.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5454274761051289842" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ]&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That should mean Mary OLIVER (born 1640) was the great granddaughter-in-law to Jerome HAM of Bristol.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;This document also includes other information, such as the pertinent material copied from the Apprentice Book of Bristol and from the Registry of Deeds in Boston (pages 22-23 of the document, or pages 34-35 of the PDF file).&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Marriage of Jerome HAM and Elizabeth OLIVER is given on page 7 of the document, or page 19 of the PDF file.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;From the chapter entitled "Documents" and subtitled:&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;    "Extracts From Parish Registers of Bristol, England"&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;it has (OLIVER surname marriages and baptisms) for St. Stephen's Parish:&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;St. Stephen's Parish records&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try  {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S7F4jSWzDuI/AAAAAAAAAU8/xNaLzwvsb_Y/s1600/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver_parish.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 345px; height: 400px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S7F4jSWzDuI/AAAAAAAAAU8/xNaLzwvsb_Y/s400/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver_parish.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5454273171340594914" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ]&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"1577. John OLIVER and Elizabeth ROWLAND were married the 28th of August."&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"1599. Mr. Jerome HAM and Elizabeth OLIVER widow the 18th of February."&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   births:&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;1578. Robert sonne     to John OLIVER was Ba. the 28th of June.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1579. Margret    dtr      to John OLIVER was Ba. the 26th of September.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1580-81. Marie   dtr     to John OLIVER was Ba. the 2nd ("iith") of Marche.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1582. Thomas  sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 14th of April.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1584. Edward   sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 24th of October.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1585. John       sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 11th of November.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1586. James    sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 3rd of December.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1587-88. Tobie  sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 26 of January.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1589. William    sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 5th of April.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1591. William    sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 3rd of May.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1592. Henry      sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 23rd of April.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1593. Frauncis  sonne  of John OLIVER was Ba. the 22nd of August. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Will of John OLIVER is given on pages 12-15 of the document, or pages 24-27 of the PDF file.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Will of Elizabeth OLIVER is given on pages 15-18 of the document, or pages 27-30 of the PDF file. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Other wills also included are those of Thomas OLIVER, James OLIVER, Francis OLIVER.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;When searching for more documentation on Jerome HAM, it might be useful to note the Parishes mentioned here (St. Peter, St. Thomas, St. Stephen, St. Werburgh, and others mentioned in the wills).&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;If you are doing research in Bristol, it might be useful note that you might want to look for the burial of Jerome HAM in the records of St. Stephen's parish some time after 1628.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further reading:&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-family: arial;" href="http://books.google.com/books/download/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver__who_lived_1640_.pdf?id=j1BBAAAAMAAJ&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=ACfU3U3h2gUTdDSSN_QvObHtsiWsIsl9lg"&gt;Ancestry of Mary OLIVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;," by William S. Appleton, privately published by John Wilson and Son in Cambridge in 1867.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(from the State Historical Society of Wisconsin)&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;     &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     on Google Books:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://books.google.com/books/download/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver__who_lived_1640_.pdf?id=j1BBAAAAMAAJ&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=ACfU3U3h2gUTdDSSN_QvObHtsiWsIsl9lg"&gt;http://books.google.com/books/download/Ancestry_of_Mary_Oliver__who_lived_1640_.pdf?id=j1BBAAAAMAAJ&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=ACfU3U3h2gUTdDSSN_QvObHtsiWsIsl9lg&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-family: arial;" href="http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/"&gt;State Historical Society of Wisconsin&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-family: arial;" href="http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp"&gt;New England Historical and Genealogical Register&lt;/a&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 1893 volume XLVII&lt;/span&gt; on Google Books:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://books.google.com/books/pdf/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi.pdf?id=2rkEg7BFm3YC&amp;amp;"&gt;http://books.google.com/books/pdf/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi.pdf?id=2rkEg7BFm3YC&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=8zHZpXgm1y6nAMeFKYwYScJl1-s&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ham-branches-Donna/dp/B0006QQLP6"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The HAM Branches by Donna Ham&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ham-branches-Donna/dp/B0006QQLP6"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="float: left; padding: 4px; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;noscript style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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Some claim that he was born in Bristol, England. Some say he was born in Germany. Some say he was born or married in 1577. Some say he was born in 1580. Others have that he was born in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;1650. Many say that he died in York County, Virginia. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Many believe that he was the single immigrant ancestor to all of the HAM lines in Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Nearly all of the inquiries that I get do not have him listed correctly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In April, 2008 I posted a Poll about him for genealogists on the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/"&gt;HAM Country Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; in April, 2008, just to see how well Jerome HAM was understood. That poll included a quick survey of information from Ancestry.com, Rootsweb WorldConnect, and the FamilySearch web site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwdleH5PI/AAAAAAAAAU0/6eeyFcNlLOA/s1600-h/HAM_Jerome_at_Ancestry_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 378px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwdleH5PI/AAAAAAAAAU0/6eeyFcNlLOA/s400/HAM_Jerome_at_Ancestry_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5438431309859382514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                                           [ click on image to enlarge  ]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That survey returned over 700 family trees for Jerome HAM. About 97% of the Jerome HAM family trees on the internet have bad information about Jerome HAM.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This past month I was asked to respond to an Ancestry message board post about him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The 40 year old myth persists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Today, I would like to examine the will of Elizabeth OLYVER, wife of Jerome HAM of Bristol. Her will was published in 1893 in the &lt;a href="http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp"&gt;New England Historical and Genealogical Register&lt;/a&gt; (NEHGS), volume XLVII. (You will want to examine pages 126, 127, and 128.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwAMIWSgI/AAAAAAAAAUc/wxbZF12P6bg/s1600-h/NEHG_vol_XLVII_1893_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 116px; height: 164px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwAMIWSgI/AAAAAAAAAUc/wxbZF12P6bg/s400/NEHG_vol_XLVII_1893_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5438430804840958466" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;On page 126, the will of John OLYVER, merchant of the City of Bristol is listed. To be buried at St. Stephens parish.  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The will was proven in London on Feb 6, 1597. Mentions wife Elizabeth and children:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   Robert OLYVER, lands in the County of Gloucester, and in the parishes of Wi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;ckwarr, Cromholde, and Yate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   Henry OLYVER, the youngest son, 20 pounds yearly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   Thomas OLYER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   John OLYVER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   James OLYVER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   Thoby OLYVER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   Mary OLYVER the profits and commodities from his part of the "presage" lease for three years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Also mentioned is his father Thomas OLYVER and his mother Margaret COXE, widow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;To his wife Elizabeth OLYVER, he gives his land in long Ashton, in the Co&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;unty of Somerset. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;However, it would appear that wife Elizabeth does not afterwards live in Ashton, as we see in the will of Richard COLE (from NEHGS, vol XLVII, page 127):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;         &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Locations mentioned in the will of Richard COLE:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Richard COLE, of Bristol, alderman, files will on Jun 16, 1599 (will proven Jul 17, 1599).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  A store house on the Key in Bristol, one “in the late tenure of Elizabeth HAM, late wife of John&lt;br /&gt;OLYVER, merchant, in the parish of St. Stephens; all during her natural life.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;---------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The will of Elizabeth HAM is given in NEHGS vol XLVII, pages 127 and 128:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;"Elizabeth HAM, wife of Hierom Ham of the City of Bristol, gentleman, late wif&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;e and executrix of John Olyver of the said city merchant."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Elizabeth files her will Dec 24, 1619, and was proven Oct 30, 1628. In it, we find husband Hierom Ham (or Jerom Ham - it is spelled both ways in the will).  She mention&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;s her children from her first husband John OLYVER, but no children are mentioned by Jerome HAM.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;From the notes on the top of page 127, we find that John OLYVER had married Elizabeth ROWLAND in Aug, 1577. John OLYVER dies in Jan 1597-98 and his widow Elizabeth marries Jerome HAM on Feb 18, 1599-1600. Elizabeth HAM files her will in 1619.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwI0XUglI/AAAAAAAAAUk/9laJU90UB8c/s1600-h/NEHGS_notes_pg126-127_01.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 18px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwI0XUglI/AAAAAAAAAUk/9laJU90UB8c/s400/NEHGS_notes_pg126-127_01.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5438430953080128082" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwQ29zLOI/AAAAAAAAAUs/8zXrbMqhwBc/s1600-h/NEHGS_notes_pg126-127_02_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 125px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3kwQ29zLOI/AAAAAAAAAUs/8zXrbMqhwBc/s400/NEHGS_notes_pg126-127_02_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5438431091217345762" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;In review, Jerome HAM was merchant and Town Clerk of Bristol from 1581 to 1621. Elizabeth ROWLAND married John OLYVER in 1577. Elizabeth OLYVER marries Jerome HAM in 1599/1600 and is apparently too old to have children after that time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;So, it should be obvious that the HAM Country survey detected a number of errors from the survey for the Poll of April, 2008. For example, if you look at the web page from the Ancestry search, you will find among the genealogies listed is a Jerome HAM being married in 1577. Obviously, not correct when checked against the records.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr  style="width: 100%; height: 2px;font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Further reading:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp"&gt;The New England Historical and Genealogical Register&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The New England Historical and Genealogical Register&lt;/span&gt;, 1893 volume XLVII on Google Books:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://books.google.com/books/pdf/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi.pdf?id=2rkEg7BFm3YC&amp;amp;"&gt;http://books.google.com/books/pdf/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi.pdf?id=2rkEg7BFm3YC&amp;amp;output=pdf&amp;amp;sig=8zHZpXgm1y6nAMeFKYwYScJl1-s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ham-branches-Donna/dp/B0006QQLP6"&gt;The HAM Branches&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; by Donna Ham&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding: 4px; float: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a share_url="data:post.url" name="fb_share" rel="nofollow" type="box_count"&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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The Harvard scholar turns to the latest tools of genealogy and genetics to explore the family histories of 12 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;renowned&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; Americans. Family histories range from Meryl Streep's eighth great-grandfather, who fought in Metacom's War (an English-American Indian conflict in 1675-76) to today's figure skater Kristi &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Yamaguchi.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VFyn32sbI/AAAAAAAAAUU/wDRxDa4yQfI/s1600-h/Faces_of_America_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 331px; height: 183px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VFyn32sbI/AAAAAAAAAUU/wDRxDa4yQfI/s400/Faces_of_America_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437328861118771634" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;div face="arial" style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 0, 153); font-family: arial;" class="pbs_tvschedules_modules-airdates-airdate_episode_title_by_broadcast_time"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Promise of America&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--                      tal:content="airdate/tg_title"  --&gt;                   &lt;div class="pbs_tvschedules_modules-airdates-airdate_episode_description"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Feb 10th - Feb 16th&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Utilizing genealogical and genetic tools, Henry Louis Gates Jr. unearths the family histories of 12 prominent Americans in this series, beginning with cellist &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/yo-yo-ma/7/"&gt;Yo-Yo Ma&lt;/a&gt;, director &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/mike-nichols/5/"&gt;Mike Nichols&lt;/a&gt; and figure skater &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/kristi-yamaguchi/3/"&gt;Kristi Yamaguchi&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBQlFysHI/AAAAAAAAATM/jw2-2fm282g/s1600-h/yoyoma_hpthumb.jpg"&gt;           &lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 137px; height: 137px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBQlFysHI/AAAAAAAAATM/jw2-2fm282g/s400/yoyoma_hpthumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437323878209859698" border="0" /&gt;                 &lt;/a&gt;      &lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBW8H-T1I/AAAAAAAAATU/M0gOMfhjvGk/s1600-h/nichols_hpthumb2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 139px; height: 139px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBW8H-T1I/AAAAAAAAATU/M0gOMfhjvGk/s400/nichols_hpthumb2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437323987472240466" border="0" /&gt;           &lt;/a&gt;       &lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBgVowKEI/AAAAAAAAATc/ekIUmROMYAI/s1600-h/yamaguchi-hpthumb1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 138px; height: 138px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBgVowKEI/AAAAAAAAATc/ekIUmROMYAI/s400/yamaguchi-hpthumb1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437324148939434050" border="0" /&gt;        &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first episode is also now available on line:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/Faces%20of%20America%20With%20Henry%20Louis%20Gates,%20Jr.%20%20%20Henry%20Louis%20Gates,%20Jr.%20is%20now%20running%20the%20seires%20Faces%20of%20America%20on%20PBS.%20The%20Harvard%20scholar%20turns%20to%20the%20latest%20tools%20of%20genealogy%20and%20genetics%20to%20explore%20the%20family%20histories%20of%2012%20renowned%20Americans.%20Famliy%20histories%20range%20from%20Meryl%20Streep%27s%20eighth%20great-grandfather,%20who%20fought%20in%20Metacom%27s%20War%20%28an%20English-American%20Indian%20conflict%20in%201675-76%29%20to%20today%27s%20figure%20skater%20Kristi%20Yamaguchi.%20%20%20%20Feb%2010th%20-%20Feb%2016th%20%20The%20Promise%20of%20America%20Utilizing%20genealogical%20and%20genetic%20tools,%20Henry%20Louis%20Gates%20Jr.%20unearths%20the%20family%20histories%20of%2012%20prominent%20Americans%20in%20this%20series,%20beginning%20with%20cellist%20Yo-Yo%20Ma,%20director%20Mike%20Nichols%20and%20figure%20skater%20Kristi%20Yamaguchi.%20%20%20The%20first%20episode%20is%20also%20available%20on%20line:%20%20%20%20%20http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/video/episode-1-our-american-stories/190/%20%20%20%20Feb%2017th%20-%20Feb%2023rd%20%20Becoming%20American%20The%20many%20pathways%20to%20America%20are%20explored%20via%20the%20ancestral%20stories%20of%20Stephen%20Colbert,%20chef%20Mario%20Batali,%20Jordan%27s%20Queen%20Noor%20and%20figure%20skater%20Kristi%20Yamaguchi.%20%20%20%20%20Wednesday,%20February%2024%20%20%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94%20%20Mar%202nd%20%20Making%20America%20The%20peopling%20of%20the%20New%20World%20is%20recalled%20via%20the%20ancestral%20stories%20of%20Meryl%20Streep%20and%20Eva%20Longoria.%20Included:%20Streep%27s%20eighth%20great-grandfather,%20who%20fought%20in%20Metacom%27s%20War%20%28an%20English-American%20Indian%20conflict%20in%201675-76%29.%20%20%20%20%20Mar%203rd%20-%20Mar%209th%20The%20Record%20Within%20%20Combining%20the%20documented%20stories%20of%20some%20of%20the%20guests%27%20last%20known%20ancestors%20with%20DNA%20evidence,%20the%20series%20travels%20backward%20through%20time%20to%20reveal%20both%20distant%20relatives%20and%20surprising%20shared%20ancestral%20connections."&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/video/episode-1-our-american-stories/190/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div  style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 0, 153);font-family:arial;" class="pbs_tvschedules_modules-airdates-airdate_episode_title_by_broadcast_time"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Becoming American&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-weight: normal;font-family:arial;" &gt;Feb 17th - Feb 23rd  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--                      tal:content="airdate/tg_title"  --&gt;                   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The many pathways to America are explored via the ancestral stories of &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/stephen-colbert/11/"&gt;Stephen Colbert&lt;/a&gt;, chef &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/mario-batali/12/"&gt;Mario Batali&lt;/a&gt;, Jordan's &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/queen-noor/6/"&gt;Queen Noor&lt;/a&gt; and figure skater Kristi Yamaguchi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBnoQH9EI/AAAAAAAAATk/b69JkVQ9h1A/s1600-h/colbert-hpthumb1.jpg"&gt;   &lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 135px; height: 135px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBnoQH9EI/AAAAAAAAATk/b69JkVQ9h1A/s400/colbert-hpthumb1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437324274195493954" border="0" /&gt;     &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;              &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VCkmt7lEI/AAAAAAAAAT0/y6ZJ9Zrg7TE/s1600-h/batali_hpthumb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 135px; height: 135px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VCkmt7lEI/AAAAAAAAAT0/y6ZJ9Zrg7TE/s400/batali_hpthumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437325321755661378" border="0" /&gt;            &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBtxs8GfI/AAAAAAAAATs/LIdxLLqDBgE/s1600-h/noor_hpthumb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 133px; height: 133px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VBtxs8GfI/AAAAAAAAATs/LIdxLLqDBgE/s400/noor_hpthumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437324379811486194" border="0" /&gt;   &lt;/a&gt;       &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;div style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 0, 153);" class="pbs_tvschedules_modules-airdates-airdate_episode_title_by_broadcast_time"&gt;Making America&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--                      tal:content="airdate/tg_title"  --&gt;                   &lt;div class="pbs_tvschedules_modules-airdates-airdate_episode_description"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Wednesday, February 24  —  Mar 2nd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The peopling of the New World is recalled via the ancestral stories of &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/meryl-streep/70/"&gt;Meryl Streep&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/eva-longoria/8/"&gt;Eva Longoria&lt;/a&gt;. Included: Streep's eighth great-grandfather, who fought in Metacom's War (an English-American Indian conflict in 1675-76).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VDIVPqxJI/AAAAAAAAAT8/lIj_KTcwOS0/s1600-h/streep_hpthumb.jpg"&gt;                  &lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 140px; height: 140px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VDIVPqxJI/AAAAAAAAAT8/lIj_KTcwOS0/s400/streep_hpthumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437325935540618386" border="0" /&gt;              &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VDN8pNBmI/AAAAAAAAAUE/9GtGsM_X7CE/s1600-h/longoria_hpthumb.jpg"&gt;      &lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 139px; height: 139px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VDN8pNBmI/AAAAAAAAAUE/9GtGsM_X7CE/s400/longoria_hpthumb.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437326032016049762" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 0, 153);"&gt;The Record Within&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Mar 3rd - Mar 9th  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Combining the documented stories of some of the  guests' last known ancestors with DNA evidence, the series travels backward  through time to reveal both distant relatives and surprising shared ancestral  connections.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VEB4TCaiI/AAAAAAAAAUM/2Hy7JWc3Ob0/s1600-h/dna76.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 139px; height: 139px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S3VEB4TCaiI/AAAAAAAAAUM/2Hy7JWc3Ob0/s400/dna76.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5437326924202535458" border="0" /&gt;     &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                        PBS website:           &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/"&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/&lt;/a&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                       Local Listings:          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/schedule/"&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/schedule/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species," the first authoritative work on evolution, following Jean Baptiste de Lamarck (1774-1829). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S20enyd4lfI/AAAAAAAAATE/mSzgNBIR9Vw/s1600-h/Genographic_News_Feb_2010_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 341px; height: 315px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S20enyd4lfI/AAAAAAAAATE/mSzgNBIR9Vw/s400/Genographic_News_Feb_2010_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5435033994216904178" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;According to the project director Spencer Wells, Darwin's great-great-grandson tested for deep ancestry at the Genographic Project. G-G-Grandson Chris Darwin migrated from England to Australia in 1986, and now lives near Sydney. (Charles Darwin was from Shropshire in southern England.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A panel of Genographic scientists gave a public presentation on the results at the Australian Museum in Sydney which included Dr. Spencer Wells, Dr. Ajay Royyuru, Dr. John Mitchell, and Dr. Simon Longstaff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can find the complete article at the Genographic Project "news" area:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;a href="https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/en/darwin.html"&gt;https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/en/darwin.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More on Darwin:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;a href="http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolution/HTML/theory.html"&gt;http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolution/HTML/theory.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tourist Guide to Darwin's home:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.enjoyengland.com/ideas/heritage-and-culture/history-makers/englands-genius/charles-darwin.aspx"&gt;http://www.enjoyengland.com/ideas/heritage-and-culture/history-makers/englands-genius/charles-darwin.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                            &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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In it, Debbie Kennett wrote a brief article on DNA testing, which mentioned the HAM DNA Project.  ("A Decade of DNA Testing," published in "Greenwood Tree.")&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The journal is distributed to those who are researching family history in the counties of Somerset and Dorset.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In "A Decade of DNA Testing," Debbie explains that Y-DNA has been used as a tool to confirm documentary research about a surname. She wrote on the subject of DNA testing, and notes that the editor only wanted a short article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote from the article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The HAM(M) project will provide 50% of the cost of a test. Other projects will no doubt have similar offers."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O.K., not quite clear there. The editors probably kept the article too brief. The HAM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;DNA Project can provide 50% of the cost of the test for individuals with financial difficulties, and only if the funds are available within the HAM DNA General Fund. A number of Y-DNA Projects have similar offers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks Debbie, it is good to seen the HAM DN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;A Project mentioned in a local journal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S20b-NPIvzI/AAAAAAAAAS8/kHZZLDufm4g/s1600-h/Grrenwood_Tree_cover_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 139px; height: 189px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S20b-NPIvzI/AAAAAAAAAS8/kHZZLDufm4g/s400/Grrenwood_Tree_cover_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5435031080825044786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Debbie writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Circulation of the journal is quite small (probably just a few&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; thousand) so there is no guarantee that anyone with your surname will actually read the article."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;If you would like to subscribe to the journal, more information can be found below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somerset &amp;amp; Dorset Family History Society&lt;br /&gt;PO Box 4502&lt;br /&gt;Sherborne DT9 6YL, England&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Greenwood Tree web site is located at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;a href="http://www.sdfhs.org/Index.htm"&gt;http://www.sdfhs.org/Index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Magazine can be purchased at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;a href="http://www.sdfhs.org/Journal.htm"&gt;http://www.sdfhs.org/Journal.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More information participating in the HAM DNA Project can be found at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com"&gt;http://www.familytreedna.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_Project.html"&gt;http://home.earthlink.net/~odoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_Project.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                                     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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But soon, the American forces were to deliver some surprising defeats to Cornwallis. If you have read the Revoluti&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;onary Pension papers for Drury HAM, you will find him at about this time marching along the New River on his way to Cowpens. American Generals Morgan and Greene were converging upon the forces of Cornwallis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The British General Cornwallis chases American Generals Morgan and Greene to Cowpens (SC), Guilford Courthouse (NC), and finally ends up in Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. The Americans had mustered some serious blows to the British forces at Cowpens and Guilford. Unknown to Cornwallis, General Washington had travelled by ship toward Yorktown. Cornwallis woke up in Yorktown one morning to find George Washington at his doorstep. Cornwallis was about to be defeated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I'd like to share a couple of pages of research from Geneva. Included here are Revolutionary DAR Application papers for Revolutionary War veteran, William HAM. This William HAM was a Lieutentant in the Navy, and fought during the Siege at Yorkto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;wn. Evelyn Calvert Barron, a descendant, had filed this application in 1940.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Geneva had sent this to me while we were doing research for the book. She thought it might help with what I was finding in the Elizabeth City Parish Vestry Books and Elizabeth City Will books. Unfortunately, I received this in about May of 2003, shortly before the book was due to be sent to the publisher. No time to dig deeper. I did have time to put some resemblance of a summary of the DAR pages into the book.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:Arial;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:Arial;" &gt;(In the book, I do not try to explain the document. What I tried to do is keep the book small. However, I do try to point out what is in the document, and indicate where you might find the document by citing our sources. The original DAR application has additional sources.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The DAR application was filed by Evelyn Calvert Barron in 1940, Evelyn age 45 at the time. ("&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname...&lt;/a&gt;" vol. #2, pages 120, 135)&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1ggYZV20AI/AAAAAAAAASc/JZ4ApbyX6tY/s1600-h/HAM_Capt_William_Geneva_02a_small.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 353px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1ggYZV20AI/AAAAAAAAASc/JZ4ApbyX6tY/s400/HAM_Capt_William_Geneva_02a_small.bmp" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429124954286641154" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  [ click on image to enlarge ]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Evelyn was born in 1895 in Elizabeth City County to Frederick Barron (b. 1859) and wife Mary Sue HAM (b. 1869, m. 1891). Mary Sue HAM was the daughter of Col. Joseph Huchison HAM (b. 1838) and wife Anna GAMBAL. Joseph Huchison HAM was the son of William HAM, Jr. (b. 1805).&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1ggoTg4JvI/AAAAAAAAASk/ipdz23-lu24/s1600-h/HAM_Capt_William_Geneva_03a_zoom.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 224px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1ggoTg4JvI/AAAAAAAAASk/ipdz23-lu24/s400/HAM_Capt_William_Geneva_03a_zoom.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429125227600160498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;And this is where you have to examine the document carefully, as it can be confusing to follow:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Lieutenant William HAM, Sr. was born in 1762 and married Susan COOPER in 1799.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William HAM, Jr (b. 1805) appears to have married Louisa HUCHISON in 1826.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This William HAM was involved in the Revolutionary War during the siege of Yorktown (near the end of the war). Because of the defeat of Cornwallis, Yorktown marked the point when the United States begun to be recognized as an independent nation. Lieutenant William HAM held duties on board the ship Nicholson, mainly shipping supplies on the James River during the siege of Yorktown. He was a favorite Lieutenant to &lt;a href="http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/barronj.htm"&gt;Commander James Barron&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William was born March 16, 1762 and died in 1825 in Elizabeth City County, VA. It would appear that he was about 19 years old during the siege at Yorktown.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;You may want to note that this is a DAR Application, and not a Pension Application. No Revolutionary Pension Application was ever filed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; for this William HAM. He died in 1825, and Congress didn't pass the Pension law until about 1838. William HAM had passed away by the time Pension Applications became available.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This Revolutionary War DAR Application can be very confusing to read. When you write down what is listed on page 2, and then compare to what is written on page 3, the line of descent is not immediately clear. That is, if taken separately, each page could cause a lot of confusion.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example:&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Page 2 has Rev War Veteran Lieut. William HAM, Sr. b. 1762 d. 1825 married Susan COOPER, and wife Susan dies in 1840. It also lists his first wife (at the top of the page 3) as "Mary."   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Page 3 has son William HAM, Jr. b. 1805 who married Louisa HUTCHINSON. (Louisa HUTCHINSON was born in 1803 on page 2....)&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Page 3 has    Lieutenant William HAM, Sr. m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;arried 1) Mary ____  and 2) in 1799 Susan COOPER in Elizabeth City County, VA. Further down page 3 lists the "Children of the Revolutionary Ancestor."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The children of William Sr. then married:&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benjamin HAM b. 1788 married Susan JENNINGS&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William HAM, Jr. b. 1803 married Louisa HUTCHINSON&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;These children are born 1788 to 1816.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This implies that the "Children of the Revolutionary Ancestor" Lt. William HAM, Sr. were four sons, Benjamin, William Jr., Jacob, and John. However, the date of birth for son Benjamin (b. 1788) only makes sense if William HAM, Jr. was also previously married (to Mary ___).   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Very confusing read. Probably also very confusing to fill out.   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The form for the DAR Application itself can be confusing. Whomever filled it out was trying to put in the dates for parents within the blank spots for children's dates. That is, putting the birth date of the parents in the blanks that should have been for the birth date of the children.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To further &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;complicate the matter, I have had Kentucky HAM lines contact me and claim descent from this William HAM. However, the more experienced genealogists clearly know a different line of descent. Folks are grabbing this William HAM and just placing him onto their family tree for some silly reason. The William HAM of Madison County, Kentucky appears to have fought in the Revolutionary War, but he died prior to the issue of Revolutionary War Pension applications. His war records have never been located.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was hoping some descendants of this HAM line would come along to help clear this up, but thus far, none have been located. It would be great to have them test for Y-DNA.   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The DAR Application lists some source records that I was not able to retrieve, as it cites the HAM Bible, Captain William HAM's Will, and Elizabeth City County Tax Lists. So, I haven't exactly cleared any confusion independently. If you check volume #2 (Virginia), you can see that I have a Benjamin HAM and a William HAM in Elizabeth City County as early as&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; 1760 (see vol #2, pages 96, 97, &amp;amp; 98). At the time that Benjamin HAM files his will (1767), he had wife Mary, sons Joseph and William and daughters Mary and Anne (see Will Book 1763 - 1771 or see "A Short History of the HAM Surname," vol #2, page 109-110).   &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would gather that the names Benjamin and William were carried in this line. From the 1760 Elizabeth City Vestry book entry, it is hard to tell if Benjamin or William would be the father of the Revolutionary War Veteran. The Parish Registry has not survived, but there is this mention in the Vestry book. It is at least known from the Will books that Benjamin HAM did have a son named William in 1767 (see vol #2, "A Short History of the HAM Surname," pages 109, 110).&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In our book (vol 2, page 210), the children are listed out this way:&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lieutenant William HAM, Sr.   b. Mar 16, 1762 &lt;br /&gt;  and married &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  1) Mary ____ &lt;br /&gt;  2) in 1799 Susan COOPER in Elizabeth City County, VA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lieutenant William HAM, Sr. died in May, 1825. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Wife Susan COOPER died in 1840.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William HAM, Jr. and wife Susan COOPER had sons:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;1) Benjamin HAM  b. Jun 18, 1788  (m. Susan JENNINGS)&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) William HAM, Jr.   b. Jul, 29, 1805 (m. Oct 5, 1826 Louisa HUTCHINSON and he died May 28, 1886 in Boydton, VA.)&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Jacob HAM     b. Oct 1813&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) John HAM       b. Dec 1816&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When in fact, Benjamin should have been a son by wife Mary.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The William HAM, Jr. appears to have been married on Oct 5, 1826 Louisa HUTCHINSON  (from page 2).&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Wife Louisa HUTCHINSON was b. May 18, 1803 in Accomack Co., VA and d. Jan 7, 1879 in Boydton, VA.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And again, William HAM, Jr. and wife Louisa HUTCHINSON had son:&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Col. Joseph Hutchinson HAM  (from DAR application page 2)&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joseph starts the line of the DAR applicant by his daughter Mary Sue HAM.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lieutenant William H&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;AM will spend his car&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;eer in the Navy, and later there would be a Captain William HAM at the time of the War of 1812. (It's not yet clear to me if the Captain would be the son of Lt. William HAM.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1gg4aaAHeI/AAAAAAAAASs/-A4cdvC3uvc/s1600-h/HAM_Capt_1783_zoom.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 276px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S1gg4aaAHeI/AAAAAAAAASs/-A4cdvC3uvc/s400/HAM_Capt_1783_zoom.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429125504328277474" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I will always be wondering when the confusion about this line will end.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Nevertheless, an interesting line to follow. Thanks Geneva, I can't wait to see the Y-DNA for this line.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further reading:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/barronj.htm"&gt;Biography - Captain James Barron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://swem.wm.edu/ead/cache/viw00021.xml.html"&gt;Inventory of the James Barron Papers 1776-1899&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dar.org/"&gt;Daughters of the American Revolution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vadar.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Virginia Daughters of the American Revolution&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://www.lva.virginia.gov/"&gt;The Library of Virginia&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;for a digital image of William HAM's 1783 record as a seaman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Elizabeth City Parish Vestry Book&lt;/span&gt;, at the Library of Virginia  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-County-Virginia-Wills-1800-1859/dp/0788420895"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Elizabeth City County Wills, 1733-1799&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  by Joan Charles, &lt;a href="http://heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;amp;Store_Code=HBI&amp;amp;Product_Code=C0328&amp;amp;Category_Code=va"&gt;Heritage Books&lt;/a&gt;, 1995.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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At least one individual thought indentured servants were criminals. Another thought there was that indentured servants would never own their own land upon gaining their freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  Carol McGinnis writes in "Viginia Genealogy Sources &amp;amp; Resources" that the first African colonists from the West Indies are sold into indentured service in 1619.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does that mean an indentured servant was a slave?  Was an indentured servant a criminal? Would an indentured servant own land when they gained their freedom?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, why should we even care if we know what an indentured servant is?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me, the answer is simple. The first HAM to arrive on this continent was an indentured servant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  Joseph HAM arrived in 1621 as an indentured servant to Lt. Albiano Lupo. Transported by the ship Warwick. The Warwick probably set sail from Middlesex or London, England. He arrived in Elizabeth City, Virginia (now the city of Hampton, Virginia).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joseph was 16 years old at the time. Joseph HAM would gain his freedom, live in York County, and marry Mary PEAD, the widow of John PEAD.  Mary had two children by John PEAD, John PEAD and Catharine PEAD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  Joseph files his will on March 3, 1638 which is subsequently probated on July 10, 1638. Among his most valuable possessions are 2,000 pounds of tobacco, 20 young goats, what appears to be a maid servant, and a part of a plantation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  Nora Probasco has sent an email to notify folks that an excellent article about indentured servants is now available on line.  An article by Nathan W. Murphy &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;“&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Origins  of Colonial Chesapeake Indentured Servants: American &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And English Sources&lt;/span&gt;.” &lt;i&gt; National Genealogical Society Quarterly&lt;/i&gt;, 93, no.1 (March, 2005), 5–24 is now on line:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S07X8KIW71I/AAAAAAAAASU/-d5N7yjWUHE/s1600-h/Indentured_Servants_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 95px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/S07X8KIW71I/AAAAAAAAASU/-d5N7yjWUHE/s320/Indentured_Servants_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5426512029539561298" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;    &lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://pricegen.com/immigrantservants/origins.htm"&gt;http://pricegen.com/immigrantservants/origins.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  If you know a little about researching early documents, then it helps to understand exactly what an indentured servant was. Or conversely, if you know how to research an indentured servant, then it could possibly help you to understand more about the times of your immigrant ancestor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An interesting article.  For folks that have not researched early documents, it gives a visual of an old printed document, so you can compare with today's writing to see how the handwriting has changed over time. Also, there is an extensive list of reference sources for help in researching early immigrants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further reading about Joseph HAM:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peter W. Coldham, "&lt;a href="http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;amp;ref=1335&amp;amp;item_number=1097"&gt;The Complete Book of Immigrants 1607-1660&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;Carol McGinnis, "&lt;a href="http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;amp;item_number=3526"&gt;Virginia Genealogy Sources &amp;amp; Resources&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;P. William Filby, "&lt;a href="http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/indexinfo.aspx?ix=pili"&gt;Passenger and Immigration Lists Index&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;John Camden Hotten, "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Emigrants-Religious-Political-Apprentices-Plantation/dp/0788418149"&gt;Original Lists of Persons of Quality 1600-1700&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;R. F. Walker article entitled "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10293303/Colonial-Records-of-Virginia"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Lists of the Living and the Dead in Virginia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10293303/Colonial-Records-of-Virginia"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Feb 16, 1623&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;" from the "&lt;a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10293303/Colonial-Records-of-Virginia"&gt;Colonial Records of Virginia&lt;/a&gt;," Richmond, 1874&lt;br /&gt;Library of Virginia, York County microfilm "&lt;a href="http://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/local/results_all.asp?CountyID=VA307"&gt;Deeds, Orders, Wills, etc.&lt;/a&gt;," page 11, Richmond, VA&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/a&gt;" &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;                                                                                                       &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  FB Shares&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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Funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council, headed up by Linguistics Professor Richard Coates, with lead researcher Dr. Patrick Hanks (lexicographer).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The goal of the project is to gather reliable information on up to 150,000 UK surnames, and enter them into a database available on a public website. They hope to use published and unpublished resources dating back to the 11th century. The goal is to obtain more reliable information than found in current epytomological dictionaries on the subject.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;For the purpose of comparison, I am obligated to say that the "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Origins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;" volume of "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;" dates the use of the word "Ham" back to the third century in Europe, and the HAM DNA Project is helping to pinpoint the exact location of origin of the HAM Surname in England.  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Those of you that follow this blog probably already know that the "Ham" is a place name meaning a homestead, or a variation thereof.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;    &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SytEk9Ju6KI/AAAAAAAAASM/JKZrrdwBkm4/s1600-h/Ham_thatched_roof_Scotland_small.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 144px; height: 96px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SytEk9Ju6KI/AAAAAAAAASM/JKZrrdwBkm4/s320/Ham_thatched_roof_Scotland_small.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5416498378524518562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;For example, in the "Origins" volume, you will find the use of the HAM surname &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;dating from the 11th century&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; in about two dozen towns in County Somerset alone. And aside from County Somerset, the book also mentions more than a dozen other Counties in England.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; (Information regarding the names of the Lords of Ham in France dates from about the 9th century.)&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Additionally, the HAM DNA Project has helped t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;o pinpoint the most likely areas of origin in England. The DNA Project has provided Y-Search studies on the origins of four HAM family DNA groups and actually have a DNA match for HAM(M/E) families who would otherwise not have information about locating surname origins. So, I suspect that the study will be missing both the information from our book, but also missing information gathered from the HAM DNA Project.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;However, it is reassuring to know that somebody has launched a project to gather more widespread information on the origins of UK family names. Those of you who do not have out book should have access to this database by about 2014. The project appears to be lead by experts in their field, and the meaning and location of origins of a name is a subject of intense interest to genealogists, both amateur and professional.   &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;For more information on the project, see:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  Article in the UK Independent by Sarah Cassidy:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/so-where-does-your-name-come-from-1843088.html"&gt;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/so-where-does-your-name-come-from-1843088.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  Press release from the University of West England:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://info.uwe.ac.uk/news/UWENews/article.asp?item=1651"&gt;http://info.uwe.ac.uk/news/UWENews/article.asp?item=1651&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; Formal description of the project from the Arts &amp;amp; Humanities Research Council:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.ahrc.ac.uk/FundedResearch/Pages/ResearchDetail.aspx?id=147098"&gt;http://www.ahrc.ac.uk/FundedResearch/Pages/ResearchDetail.aspx?id=147098&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  For more information specific to the HAM surname, see also:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; Article on surname origins at HAM Country:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_Origins.html"&gt;http://home.earthlink.net/~odoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_Origins.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_Origins.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  Videos on HAM surname origins:   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;                                                 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/odoniv"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/user/odoniv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; 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I was able to find their service record by a mouse click on their name. Typical example gives enlistment information, such as year of birth, branch of service, date of enlistment and location. What I liked most was the serial number and source information (microfilm reel number and box number of the Army Enlistment records).   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SyHu4E1sGBI/AAAAAAAAAR8/kNii_izywRU/s1600-h/HAMM_Wiley_Army_small.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 169px; height: 253px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SyHu4E1sGBI/AAAAAAAAAR8/kNii_izywRU/s400/HAMM_Wiley_Army_small.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5413870874215061522" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;However, having spent some time on genealogy, I already had most of that information for my uncles, if not more. Footnote does have an option to enable you to add notes and images to their records. Using this feature, I was able to add some notes on Wiley's death in 1944.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;What I was really interested in was tracking his Company information. I know that in August, 1941, Wiley was stationed in Iceland and part of Company C, 10th Infantry. I thought it might be interesting to try to follow his troop movements during WWII. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;So, I started browsing Footnote's "WWII Allied Military Conference" to see if I could get an idea of his whereabouts after D-Day.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I suppose I should mention that the most annoying feature of the site is it's Java interface, which makes browsing very slow going for dial-up users.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Other than that, perhaps it might help you find some WWII information on your ancestors this holiday season.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                               &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.footnote.com/"&gt;http://www.footnote.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                           &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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The largest issue in their five year history, packed with a lot of material of interest to Genetic Genealogists. With over 220 pages, you should find about 10 articles and three reports in this issue.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;" &gt;Among the items of interest include an announcement from Whit Athey that he will retire as editor, being replaced by Blaine Bettinger. Many of you should recognize Whit as the creator of the Haplotype Predictor utility. Whit mentions that he has observed genetic genealogists move from dependence upon the scientific community for information, to the use of DNA now being led by "amateurs."   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;" &gt;One article is from Roberta Estes, regarding the use of DNA with Native American dispersal and the Lost Colony of Roanoke.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial;"&gt; "Where Have All the Indians Gone?  Native American Eastern Seaboard Dispersal, Genealogy and DNA in Relation to Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony of Roanoke"&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;" &gt;Another article is from Chris Pomery, "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;The Advantages of a Dual DNA/Documentary Approach&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;to Reconstruct the Famiiy Trees of a Surname." &lt;/b&gt;Chris outlines a method for combining Y-DNA results with documentary evidence in order to reveal the origins of a surname. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;" &gt;There is also a "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Special Section&lt;/span&gt;" here, regarding "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Cluster Analysis and the TMRCA Problem&lt;/span&gt;." This includes about seven articles on:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;div style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Introduction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  by Whit Athey &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;An overview of the pitfalls and cutting edge views on topics related to calculating Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA). Whit looks at the use of mutation rates, transmissions, over-counting, rho, "genealogical structure factor," an "effective mutation rate" procedure, and more. Nice overview, if you want to take a deep dive into the following articles. &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Y-STR Mountains in Haplospace, Part I:  Methods&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    by Peter Gwozdz   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Y-STR Mountains in Haplospace, Part II:  Application to Common Polish Clades&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    by Peter Gwozdz  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DNA Genealogy, Mutation Rates, and Some Historical Evidence Written in Y-Chromosome, Part I:  Basic Principles and the Method&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  by Anatole A. Klyosov&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;DNA Genealogy, Mutation Rates, and Some Historical Evidence Written in Y-Chromosome, Part II:  Walking the Map&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;by Anatole A. Klyosov  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Use of Correlation Techniques for the Analysis of Pairs of Y-Chromosome DNA Haplotypes, Part I:  Rationale, Methodology and Genealogy Time Scale&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;by William E. Howard&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Use of Correlation Techniques for the Analysis of Pairs of Y-Chromosome DNA Haplotypes, Part II:  Application to Surname and Other Haplotype Clusters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-family:Verdana;" &gt;by William E. 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Written by Steve Mollman, it's a story of how DNA research surprised two genealogists on different continents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About three months ago, Kevin Shepherdson in Singapore discovered a DNA match to Thomas Kurowski of Rhode Island (Thomas Kurwoski is of Polish descent). The two never knew each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shepherdson is a seasoned genealogist, and has since found that they connect from a pair of English brothers who served as Captains in the British East India Company during the 1700's.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The article also includes a few graphics (such as pictured above) about the fundamentals of DNA testing. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;You can read the full article here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/11/09/dna.families/"&gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/11/09/dna.families/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/11/09/dna.families/"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                  &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt; To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-6023049999405543717?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/6023049999405543717/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=6023049999405543717' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6023049999405543717'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6023049999405543717'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/11/cnn-dna-genealogy-article.html' title='CNN DNA Genealogy Article'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SvkfWJ023zI/AAAAAAAAAR0/JITB-tWb9G8/s72-c/CNN_DNA_Article_small.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-6425396247481835954</id><published>2009-11-05T03:36:00.014-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-05T04:14:03.517-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Family Tree DNA Sale'/><title type='text'>Family Tree DNA Sale</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big  style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Family Tree DNA Sale &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SvKWzCOLCDI/AAAAAAAAARs/ouDN23UMjwE/s1600-h/dna12.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 80px; height: 70px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SvKWzCOLCDI/AAAAAAAAARs/ouDN23UMjwE/s400/dna12.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400544706684454962" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"&gt;November-December, 2009&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Family Tree DNA is offering a Holiday Season promotion on the price of their y-DNA37 and y-DNA67 products, among other tests that are available. The sale is good from now until December 31, 2009.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The HAM DNA Project is still waiting for DNA participants from Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. We are also waiting for more participants from other countries, such as England, Ireland, France, and Germany. Just as the DNA has shown possible links to the Norman invasion for Group #1, we have other groups that are waiting for more DNA matches for clues to their ancestry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Thanks to the DNA, I am now wondering how my group came to England with the Conqueror.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Without participants from the areas mentioned above, we remain a tiny project. I would estimate that we are still missing about 40 DNA "Groups" for the HAM DNA Project. HAM(M)(N)(E) lines of Native American or African American descent have yet to be tested, among others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This past week I've gotten emails about the Project, curious to know if we have a match to the Lords of Ham, or asking about what to do with the DNA information. But we haven't had a new DNA participant since February.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Well, now is your chance to sign up at discount prices. Here are some of the specials from Family Tree DNA:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table style="font-family: arial;" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img alt="•" src="http://www.familytreedna.com/img/gap-launch/glBullet.gif" height="14" width="10" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Y-DNA37 – promotional                          price $119 &lt;/strong&gt;(reg. price $149)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;                     &lt;tr&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img alt="•" src="http://www.familytreedna.com/img/gap-launch/glBullet.gif" height="14" width="10" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Y-DNA67 – promotional                          price $209 &lt;/strong&gt;(reg. price $239)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;                     &lt;tr&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img alt="•" src="http://www.familytreedna.com/img/gap-launch/glBullet.gif" height="14" width="10" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mtDNAPlus – promotional                          price $139&lt;/strong&gt; (reg. price $149)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;                     &lt;tr&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img alt="•" src="http://www.familytreedna.com/img/gap-launch/glBullet.gif" height="14" width="10" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;                       &lt;td style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 18px;" align="left" valign="top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SuperDNA – promotional                          price $488&lt;/strong&gt; (reg. price  $665)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;This promotion will run through the end of December, so now is a good time to participate if your HAM line is not yet participating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;More information regarding "How To" participate is given on the HAM Country web pages, but U.S. participants can go directly to the order form at FTDNA here:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X19954&amp;amp;special=True"&gt; HAM DNA Project order form at FTDNA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;and European residents can visit the European web site for ordering information at Family Tree DNA:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://europe.familytreedna.com/"&gt;http://europe.familytreedna.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;(Indicate that you want to "Join" the HAM DNA Project for the Holiday discount on group prices.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                               &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; 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Used HAM Book Triples in Price&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I couldn't help but notice that the ISBN Price History on used copies of "&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;" has gone up during the month of August.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ISBN is tracking online vendor prices for our book, and apparently the average price is now &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;$216.31&lt;/span&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpNweZERaCI/AAAAAAAAARk/s4k0_wySleU/s1600-h/ISBN_price_history_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 248px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpNweZERaCI/AAAAAAAAARk/s4k0_wySleU/s400/ISBN_price_history_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5373762447810324514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Let me see, the copy from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Abebooks&lt;/span&gt; apparently sold for &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;$134.97&lt;/span&gt;,  as I could not follow their link to the seller.   According to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://isbndb.com/d/book/a_short_history_of_the_ham_surname_in_virginia_nc/pricehistory.html?when=2009-08-09"&gt;&lt;b style="font-family: arial;"&gt;ISBN:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://isbndb.com/d/book/a_short_history_of_the_ham_surname_in_virginia_nc/pricehistory.html?when=2009-08-09"&gt;                                                  0966547101&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;There is a used volume #2 (only) available on Amazon from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ACCBold&lt;/span&gt; (claims to be located in MN) for &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;$95.00&lt;/span&gt; plus $3.99 for shipping.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;And finally, a used copy of all three volumes is also available on Amazon from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Internationalbooks&lt;/span&gt; (claims to ship from Maryland) for &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;$297.65&lt;/span&gt;, plus $3.99 shipping (or $12.49 for shipping international). Let me see, that's about $100.00 for each volume.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0966547101/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;condition=all"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0966547101/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;condition=all&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Of course, you can buy a new copy of volume #2 from us for $36.00.  That is, a used copy is selling for nearly three times as much as a new one.  I suppose it's nice to know that the book has tripled in value if you own a used copy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;And, of course, a new three volume set is still available from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/Order_Form.pdf"&gt;HAM Country&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; for $110.50, compared to the $297.65 price for a used copy from Internationalbooks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;It just gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling to know that the value of a used copy has gone up on the ISBN price survey. After all, I've always thought the set was a good investment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                                    &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-2547755058640681098?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/2547755058640681098/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=2547755058640681098' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2547755058640681098'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2547755058640681098'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08/book-price-change-history.html' title='Book Price Change History'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpNweZERaCI/AAAAAAAAARk/s4k0_wySleU/s72-c/ISBN_price_history_small.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-8685183852172739854</id><published>2009-08-23T04:44:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-23T05:04:57.668-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Family History Monthly'/><title type='text'>Family History Monthly</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must say that the new issue of Family History Monthly magazine (for the UK) caught my eye.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Issue 174 of the magazine has two articles on the use of DNA for genealogy:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;Was Crippen Innocent?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;" by Chris Pomery investigates an old family history crime scene, this time using DNA evidence.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;A Practical Guide to DNA Testing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;" by Debbie Kennett, which explains how DNA testing is used for genealogy.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpEEekFUAXI/AAAAAAAAARc/q_kIVgM79E0/s1600-h/DNA_Practical_Guide.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 280px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpEEekFUAXI/AAAAAAAAARc/q_kIVgM79E0/s400/DNA_Practical_Guide.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5373080753558258034" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In her article, Debbie explains that DNA has been in use for genealogy for nearly 10 years now, with estimates of nearly a million people now using DNA for genealogy. She explains how Y-DNA and mtDNA tests are used for genealogy projects, and goes into some detail about how each works. Debbie includes an evaluation of testing companies available in the UK, providing a guide on available choices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;She includes a table of number of vendors, including features that you should expect to find with each vendor. Included is a section on understanding your results, Geographical Projects, and Deep Ancestry. Also included is an introduction to ISOGG (the International Society of Genetic Genealogy).  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;A nice touch to the article is a side column featuring Spencer Wells with the National Genographic Project, explaining the the Genographic Project now has 100,000 samples from indigenous people, and nearly 300,000 paid participants from 130 countries.  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The Deep Ancestry section includes a section on SNP testing (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms) and gives an overview of migration patterns from the National Genographic Project.  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;She includes a summary about further information on DNA testing, testing companies, DNA databases, and books.   &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;You probably won't find the article on newsstands here in the U.S., but you can subscribe or purchase this issue individually from the Family History Monthly web site:  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.familyhistorymonthly.com/"&gt;http://www.familyhistorymonthly.com/  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;A very good article on how DNA testing can contribute to the legacy or knowledge about the origins and evolution of your surname.   &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                    &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-8685183852172739854?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/8685183852172739854/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=8685183852172739854' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/8685183852172739854'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/8685183852172739854'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08/family-history-monthly.html' title='Family History Monthly'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SpEEekFUAXI/AAAAAAAAARc/q_kIVgM79E0/s72-c/DNA_Practical_Guide.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-2655828131092775225</id><published>2009-08-20T03:07:00.012-04:00</published><updated>2010-02-16T05:20:11.167-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='National Genographic News'/><title type='text'>National Genographic News</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lot of activity during the month of August at the National Genographic blog page "&lt;a href="http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/genographic/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Genographica&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Briefly, they are hi-liting three items:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) The new High Definition version of their &lt;a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/human-family-tree?source=email_genographic_20090813"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Human Family Tree video&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; airs Su&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;nday, Aug 30th at 9 PM.   This has been advertised all month on the National Geographic channel, more information is available on their web site.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/Soz3o9_B36I/AAAAAAAAARU/O2MH7u7ZQwY/s1600-h/The_Human_Family_Tree_small.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 247px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/Soz3o9_B36I/AAAAAAAAARU/O2MH7u7ZQwY/s400/The_Human_Family_Tree_small.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5371940738751913890" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;      &lt;a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/human-family-tree?source=email_genographic_20090813"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;with the TV schedule here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;        &lt;a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/"&gt;http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new HD video is also available for purchase at the National Genographic &lt;a href="http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/gateway/1063/128/page/2.html"&gt;online store&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) National Genographic &lt;a href="http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/genographic/2009/08/special-discount-offer-on-geno.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNA test kits are available for a 10 % discount&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; now through September 15th.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) The National Genographic web site is taking &lt;a href="http://migration-stories.nationalgeographic.com/?source=email_genographic_20090731"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;migration stories&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for posting to their web site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                               &lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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(&lt;a href="http://docs.widgetbox.com/using-widgets/installing-widgets/why-cant-i-see-my-widget/"&gt;More info&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/noscript&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share END --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-2655828131092775225?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/2655828131092775225/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=2655828131092775225' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2655828131092775225'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2655828131092775225'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08/national-genographic-news.html' title='National Genographic News'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/Soz3o9_B36I/AAAAAAAAARU/O2MH7u7ZQwY/s72-c/The_Human_Family_Tree_small.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-518736402685263185</id><published>2009-08-08T02:06:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-08T02:12:56.085-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Free 1930 Census Images'/><title type='text'>Free 1930 Census Images</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I have a note from Jeff Weaver of the &lt;a href="http://www.newrivernotes.com/nrv.htm"&gt;New River&lt;/a&gt; email list that Footnote is granting free access to their 1930 Census images during the month of August:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;       &lt;a href="http://go.footnote.com/1930census/"&gt;http://go.footnote.com/1930census/ &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;They appear to be experiencing some performance problems due to the high traffic, tho.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;So, if you're looking for something from the 1930 Census, here's the opportunity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;                                                        &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-518736402685263185?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/518736402685263185/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=518736402685263185' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/518736402685263185'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/518736402685263185'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08/free-1930-census-images.html' title='Free 1930 Census Images'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-4182013625382490776</id><published>2009-07-08T03:40:00.008-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T03:54:57.108-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HAM Country Updates'/><title type='text'>HAM Country Updates</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/Links/WVlinks.html"&gt;Links to research in West Virginia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; have been added to the HAM Country "Links" area. This was suggested by Thomas Hamm of Charlotte, NC.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    If you haven't visited the indexes for the HAM Country "Wills &amp;amp; Estates," I have updated the index for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/Wills/UK/HAM-Wills-UK.html"&gt;England&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;.  Additions are from the Gloucestershire Record Office.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;For a more complete list of changes see the HAM Country &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/Revisions/Revisions.html"&gt;Revisions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; page.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  - Enjoy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                               &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt; To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-4182013625382490776?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/4182013625382490776/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=4182013625382490776' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/4182013625382490776'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/4182013625382490776'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/07/ham-country-updates.html' title='HAM Country Updates'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-6502010632410129003</id><published>2009-07-05T00:53:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-05T01:00:20.149-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Family Tree DNA Sale'/><title type='text'>Family Tree DNA Sale</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Family Tree DNA Sale &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;July, 2009&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;HAM DNA Project&lt;/span&gt; has been underway since 2005, but we are still struggling to get participants from a number of areas that would be helpful to the Project.  We are currently looking for confirmation on a number of Counties in Virginia and North Carolina, as well as South Carolina and Kentucky. Current participants are also looking for matches in Britain, Ireland, Scotland, and Germany.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The folks awaiting confirmation usually only have one participant from their line, and need a second participant from another branch of their line to confirm any out of wedlock issues. The folks seeking matches overseas need participants overseas to confirm locations of origin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In Virginia, there are a number of HAM lines in Counties that have not yet participated:   Orange, Caroline, Culpeper, and Elizabeth City (now Hampton)&lt;/span&gt;.  &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Participants who are known to descend from these Counties would be very helpful to the Project. In North Carolina, we are still waiting for known descendants from the Counties of Iredell, Surry, Guilford, Montgomery, and of course Rowan County.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Not yet participating are the HAM lines from Pennsylvania, several from New York, Maine, New Hampshire, and various lines on the east coast, which should include Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, etc. If known descendants of these lines would participate, it would be of help for targeting future research.  We have yet to see our first participant who would be a current resident of and would have ancestors from Britain, Scotland, France, or Germany.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;At any rate, now is a good time to sign up for the DNA testing. I have received an announcement from Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA that prices have dropped for the month of July. He quotes these prices:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;      Y-DNA37 – promotional price $119      (reg.  price $149) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;      Y-DNA67 – promotional price $199      (reg.  price $238) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;      mtDNAPlus – promotional price $119  (reg.  price $149) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;These are the best prices, marker for marker, of any  company in the market.&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;This promotion will run through the month of July, so now is a good time to participate if your HAM line is not yet participating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;More information regarding "How To" participate is given on the HAM Country web pages, but U.S. participants can go directly to the order form at FTDNA here:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X19954&amp;amp;special=True"&gt;HAM DNA Project order form at FTDNA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;and European residents can visit the European web site for ordering information at Family Tree DNA:&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://europe.familytreedna.com/"&gt;http://europe.familytreedna.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;(Indicate that you want to "Join" the HAM DNA Project for the July group discount prices.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;                                                     To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-6502010632410129003?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/6502010632410129003/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=6502010632410129003' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6502010632410129003'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6502010632410129003'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/07/family-tree-dna-sale.html' title='Family Tree DNA Sale'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-6492605954472463892</id><published>2009-07-02T04:19:00.009-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-02T04:44:27.346-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Devon DNA Project'/><title type='text'>Devon DNA Project</title><content type='html'>&lt;div face="Arial" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Debbie Kennett is writing an article for the October issue of the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon Family Historian&lt;/span&gt;, which is the journal of the Devon Family History Society. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I have requested that the HAM DNA Project be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;among the Projects that can offer partially funded DNA tests, which I hope to provide through the HAM DNA General Fund.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Debbie is also the Administrator of the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon DNA Project&lt;/span&gt; at family Tree DNA. She has a brief overview of the long history of settlement in Devon, the meaning of the Celtic word "Devon" ("the people of the land"), artifacts, hill forts, and archeology findings from the area. She also has some helpful links at the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;bottom of the web page:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial;" href="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Devon"&gt;http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Devon&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In our book, "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;," the main records we have are from Collyton Parish, which also mentions the parishes of Ashwater, Cheriton Fitzpyn, Halberton, Halwill, Hartland, Hemyock, Honiton, Luppitt, Milton Abbot, Oakford, St. Andrew's Parish in Plymouth, Shepewash, Shute, Tiverton, Uplowman, Upottery, West Budleigh, and Wilhayes. We also have in volume #1 (Origins) Wills from Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) for HAM residents of Devon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Collyton &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Parish is located near Plymouth. And, of course, there is a small town called "Ham" (or Ham Ward) near Plymouth as well. As many of you already know, the surname "HAM" is a place name, and locating the town of origin is a good indication of where the name was adopted after about 1200 AD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A map of the area shows the area known as Ham, near Plymouth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=248899&amp;amp;y=54192&amp;amp;z=5&amp;amp;sv=248899,54192&amp;amp;st=4&amp;amp;ar=Y&amp;amp;mapp=newmap.srf&amp;amp;searchp=newsearch.srf&amp;amp;dn=795&amp;amp;ax=248899&amp;amp;ay=54192"&gt;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=248899&amp;amp;y=54192&amp;amp;z=5&amp;amp;sv=248899,54192&amp;amp;st=4&amp;amp;ar=Y&amp;amp;mapp=newmap.srf&amp;amp;searchp=newsearch.srf&amp;amp;dn=795&amp;amp;ax=248899&amp;amp;ay=54192 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SkxuZFJNvuI/AAAAAAAAARE/PAXxm4UFRtk/s1600-h/HAM_Plymouth06.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 396px; height: 335px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SkxuZFJNvuI/AAAAAAAAARE/PAXxm4UFRtk/s400/HAM_Plymouth06.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5353775434193288930" border="0" /&gt;   &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/Skxun2w3JDI/AAAAAAAAARM/8Kn7rWNZolc/s1600-h/HAM_Plymouth04a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 338px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/Skxun2w3JDI/AAAAAAAAARM/8Kn7rWNZolc/s400/HAM_Plymouth04a.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5353775688031085618" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The primary HAM lines that are researching the area of Plymouth are the HAM lines of Maine and New Hampshire. They have an interest there because the first HAM progenitor on this continent was William HAM of Maine, a member of the Trelawney expedition. William HAM of Maine arrived on the Speedwell in 1635 and was originally contracted to fish. Several of the Mayors of Plymouth (England) were named Trelawny:&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Plymouth City Council&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;List of Mayors from 1600 to 1700&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/councilanddemocracy/lordmayoralty/mayors/mayors1600-1700.htm"&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/councilanddemocracy/lordmayoralty/mayors/mayors1600-1700.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/councilanddemocracy/lordmayoralty/mayors/mayors1600-1700.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="role_document" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;--------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Some descendants of William HAM of Maine were mentioned  in the book "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:Arial;" &gt;The HAM Family Kith and Kin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;" by Rev. Ervin Charles Tipton (1977).  L. Winston Hamm was a contributor to Tipton's book, and had listed his own line back to the William HAM who arrived in Maine in 1635.I have mentioned a short biography of Winston Hamm in the Appendix of our volume #1 (Origins). &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The exciting thing about Debbie Kennett's October article for the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon Family Historian&lt;/span&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Devon"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Devon DNA Project&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is that I am hoping to see DNA participants from Devon. If they are native to Devon, we should expect haplotype "R1b." If their is a Norman influence to the HAM lines in Devon, then of course they should be haplotype "I." The problem is that we have no DNA participants here in the U.S. for the Maine HAM lines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, I am pushing for participants from Britain, and am hoping for some DNA participants from the Maine and New Hampshire HAM lines as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                                                          &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-6492605954472463892?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/6492605954472463892/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=6492605954472463892' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6492605954472463892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/6492605954472463892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/07/devon-dna-project.html' title='Devon DNA Project'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SkxuZFJNvuI/AAAAAAAAARE/PAXxm4UFRtk/s72-c/HAM_Plymouth06.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-4065242675858672240</id><published>2009-07-01T03:44:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-01T04:03:42.736-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Facebook Albums on line'/><title type='text'>Facebook Albums on line</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   For those who are interested in the HAM surname, I have uploaded a few small albums to Facebook.  I have a few picture handy, so I put them on Facebook.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;David Hamm, a descendant of the Wayne County, NC HAM lines prodded me to join Facebook so that he could browse the web with his iPhone. I don't have one of those new fangled gadgets, so I just use my web browser.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Some of these pictures appeared in the "&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAu1az6aWwA"&gt;HAM Book Trailer&lt;/a&gt;" video, and some are from my video on "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Descendants of Eli HAM&lt;/span&gt;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The public links to the albums are:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   Some of my pictures from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ashe County, NC&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9549&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=640a274549"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=9549&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=640a274549&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  A few pictures from &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Grayson County, VA&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=8642&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=253c393bcc"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=8642&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=253c393bcc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Some pictures from my research trips for the book "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/span&gt;":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7770&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=45c45dfc82"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7770&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=45c45dfc82&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  My main Facebook page is at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/HAMCountry"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/HAMCountry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  but the main page is only open to Facebook "Friends" (folks registered at Facebook who claim to be my "friend"). The main page simply has my "Wall" of general comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I intentionally kept the images small so that they will load quickly via dial-up or iPhone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                       &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-4065242675858672240?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/4065242675858672240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=4065242675858672240' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/4065242675858672240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/4065242675858672240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/07/facebook-albums-on-line.html' title='Facebook Albums on line'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-1613297218361257849</id><published>2009-06-14T01:40:00.010-04:00</published><updated>2010-02-16T05:19:12.725-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Grayson County VA Origins'/><title type='text'>HAM Origins in Grayson County, Virginia</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;big&gt;HAM Origins in Grayson County, Virginia&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;I have seen more speculation &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; than I care to review &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;about HAM origins in the Ashe County, North Carolina and origins in Grayson County, Virginia.  However, I cannot address all of the various forms of speculation in one short article. Most speculation that I have seen can be cleared up by careful study of our book, “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/HAM_Sales_Brochure.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;.” It is my hope that this article will help clear up where we are with the current research of the Grayson County HAM lines.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Migration to Ashe County&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Geneva located the following Grayson County record from 1826, which I think is key to showing the relationship of the Ashe County and Grayson County HAM lines. That's because the 1826 land grants in Ashe County don't tell where Thomas and William are from. However, this 1826 Grayson County deed does. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;It states that in Oct 1826, William HAM, Jr. "of Ashe County NC" sells 100 acres on Brushy Creek, Grayson County VA to Joseph LYNCH. That is, the Grayson County deed shows that the Ashe County HAM lines and the Grayson County HAM lines are the same line. There is an abstract of the record in the Virginia volume of our book (volume #2, page 212).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The year 1826 marks the migration of Thomas and William HAM, Jr. to Ashe County, NC from Grayson County, VA.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The time period prior to 1783 has been the subject of much speculation. In 1782, there is a William HAM who is taxed on 200 acres in Botetourt County, VA. After 1790, this land becomes Montgomery County. The problem is that there are several William HAM's in the area at the time. The Revolutionary War was on until 1783, and many of the  records of the period reflect troop movements. From 1782 to 1787, 60 % of the people in Montgomery County had been living in Montgomery County for less than 5 years.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Prior to 1798, it is difficult to determine the differences between the William HAM of Grayson County, the William HAM of Wythe County, and the William HAM of Montgomery County. And, it is not clear that the William HAM in these three Counties would be the same man.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Drury HAM - The Journey Home:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Drury HAM is the only HAM to be listed on the 1787 Tax Lists for Montgomery County. There is a William HAM who enters 100 acres on Little Brush Creek in 1783, but does not appear on the Tax Lists for Montgomery County until 1788, 1789, and 1790. In 1787 and 1788, Drury is also found in Greenbrier County along with a Samuel HAM and a Joseph HAM. Drury HAM is no longer found on the Montgomery County Tax lists after 1788. By 1789, Drury HAM is found in Greenbrier County, in what is now West Virginia. By 1791, he migrates to Madison County, Kentucky.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The curious part of the Montgomery County records during the 1780's is that both Drury HAM and William HAM eventually end up in Madison County, Kentucky. Yet, this 1783 Treasury Warrant for 100 acres in Montgomery County is eventually found in the Grayson County Plat Book. Therefore it becomes important for Grayson County  descendants to understand the difference between the William HAM of Madison County and the William HAM of Grayson County. How were they different? Were they related?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We know from the Revolutionary Pension files that Drury was born in Orange County, Virginia. Later, Drury and one of the William HAM's migrate to Madison County, Kentucky (William arrived in Madison County circa 1787 and Drury circa 1791). and Drury eventually settles in Lincoln County, Kentucky. The Madison County William HAM is found in Madison County in 1787, 1788, 1789, 1790, and 1792. This William HAM dies in Madison County, KY in 1812, with his estate settled in 1814 and leaving a widow named Elizabeth. By an intriguing coincidence, this William HAM also has three sons also named John, William Jr. and Thomas, but this Madison County family remained in Kentucky. It was a completely different family from the family of Grayson County, Virginia.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;By following Drury HAM from Botetourt County to Montgomery County, we can obtain some clues about which William is the Grayson County William HAM, and which is the Madison County William HAM:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Drury HAM:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Botetourt County             1780, 1783 (Capt. John Gallaway’s Company)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Greenbrier County                                  1785, 1787, 1788, 1789, 1791&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Montgomery County                                           1787, 1788&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Madison County, KY                                                                           1791, etc.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Botetourt County William HAM:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;    - in Botetourt County    1774, 1782 (this land becomes Montgomery Co. in 1790), &lt;br /&gt;                                                                 1783 (Capt. John Gallaway’s Company)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Greenbrier County William HAM:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;     - in Greenbrier County           1778, 1780, 1782, 1783, 1786, 1787?, 1798&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Madison County William HAM:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;    -  in Madison County in                                                        1787, 1788, 1789, 1790, and 1792, etc.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Montgomery County William HAM:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   -  in Montgomery County 1783 (this land becomes Grayson County in 1793),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;                                                                                                              1788, 1789, 1790&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Wythe County                                                                                                          1793&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;   - in Grayson County, VA                                                                                                      1798, 1800&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The pairing of Drury HAM and the William HAM of Madison County, KY makes sense for several reasons.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;A) “Drury” is a fairly unique name. There was only one Drury HAM for the time period.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;B) Drury and William share the last name “HAM”   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;C) Drury and William are both in Capt. John Gallaway’s Company in Botetourt County in 1783&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;D) Drury and William both appear in Greenbrier County and end up in Madison County, KY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;E) There is some record of Drury’s migration from the Revolutionary War Pension papers.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;F) In 1787 to 1788, the Greenbrier County William HAM migrates to Madison County, KY.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;Which means that by 1788, we have a different William HAM in Montgomery County, VA.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;The timeline should illustrate that we have two or three William HAM’s.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In 1783, we have William HAM in Botetourt County, in Greenbrier County, and in      Montgomery County. That is, the Botetourt County William and the Greenbrier County William appear to be different men. Except that the Revolutionary War had just ended and Drury and William could be returning home in that year.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In about 1787 it appears that the Greenbrier County William HAM migrates to Madison County, KY and is followed in 1791 by Drury HAM (from Greenbrier County to Madison County). It would appear the the Greenbrier County / Madison County William HAM could be related to Drury HAM.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;In 1788, we have a William HAM in Madison County, KY and a William HAM  in Montgomery County, VA.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;If I could summarize what we can say about the origins of the William HAM of Grayson County, it would appear that he is first in Montgomery County in 1783, in an area that would later become Grayson County. However, we cannot confirm his presence in Grayson County again until 1798 when he enters land in the Grayson County Plat &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;book. He has not been found on Grayson County Tax Lists until 1800. From examination of the records for Drury and the William HAM of Madison County, Kentucky, we can see that we have a separate William HAM in Montgomery County by1788. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;For full source citations and more, see “&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/PressKit/Order_Form.pdf"&gt;A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC&lt;/a&gt;.”&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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There may be a few items of interest to those who are keeping track of the DNA Project:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;1) A commentary about the DAR vs. the use of DNA by Whit Athey.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;     The DAR is avoiding the use of DNA as evidence of descent from a Revolutionary War Veteran.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;2) An article regarding Y-DNA traits of lines originating in Ireland.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    Pointing to R1b types, there are certain DYS values that help determine Irish Origins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    Here, Dennis Wright expands on some work originally discovered by Ken Nordtvedt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;3) There are also three mtDNA articles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  You should find the Journal of Genetic Genealogy at:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                        &lt;a href="http://www.jogg.info/"&gt;http://www.jogg.info/  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jogg.info/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                                                                                                &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; 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&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I've started a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt; Photo Album of pictures from my research trips for our book "A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC." Some of these you may have seen in the book, but I will probably upload a number of them that did not get into the book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;To view the caption, either mouse over or click on the picture for a larger view.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7770&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=45c45dfc82"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7770&amp;amp;id=1603220466&amp;amp;l=45c45dfc82&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;                                                               To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; z-index: 2147483647; left: 165px; top: 23px;" id="kosa-target-image" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-1497963368393882053?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/1497963368393882053/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=1497963368393882053' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/1497963368393882053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/1497963368393882053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/05/facebook-research-trip-photo-album.html' title='Facebook Research Trip Photo Album'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-5079863384737803850</id><published>2009-05-07T00:38:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-05-07T00:56:41.091-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='KallOut - New Search Tool'/><title type='text'>KallOut - New Search Tool</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Now here's a nifty little tool I just installed on my FireFox web browser - &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KallOut&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;a href="http://kallout.com/ff/welcome.html"&gt;http://kallout.com/ff/welcome.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Genealogists are always trying to find good reference material on the web, be it a primary source document, a news article, or even a You Tube video. A Google search doesn't always return everything that is available on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can now search any of your favorite web sites in seconds, and no typing required.  (Sweet!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you find an article on a web page that doesn't have an associated link, now you can just hi-lite a word on the page, then select the type of search you want from a menu of options.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd say this has to be an improvement over a plain vanilla Google search.&lt;br /&gt;Currently, it can search Google, Yahoo, Ebay, flickr, Twitter, IMDb, FaceBook, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(For example, I can hi-lite &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tyler Ham&lt;/span&gt;, and select a search on IMDb... interesting!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should help with genealogy work, I should think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  - Enjoy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                      &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; z-index: 2147483647; left: 250px; top: 385px;" id="kosa-target-image" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-5079863384737803850?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/5079863384737803850/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=5079863384737803850' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/5079863384737803850'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/5079863384737803850'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/05/kallout-new-search-tool.html' title='KallOut - New Search Tool'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-496292669713778984</id><published>2009-04-23T23:28:00.008-04:00</published><updated>2010-02-16T05:22:09.854-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ft2phy: Y-DNA STR to ATGC conversion'/><title type='text'>ft2phy: Y-DNA STR to ATGC conversion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;ft2phy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"&gt;Y-DNA Short Tandem Repeats to ATGC conversion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;The software program "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ft2phy&lt;/span&gt;" has been posted to the HAM Country Tools area. If you've ever thought it daunting using "ft2dna" to run LAMARC, or draw trees with DNAPARS or PHYML, or if you'd like to see the "alpha" or transversion ratios for your Group, then "ft2phy" can make life a bit easier for you.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;"ft2phy" can read several lines of STR data from Family Tree DNA, and use the same input format that Dean McGee's Utility does. So, if you have saved your Dean McGee Utility data into a file, then "ft2phy" can read your data file in order to produce the ATGC conversion.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;ft2phy can read multiple lines of data (up to 600 lines), and it sends the output to separate data files for each marker. These files can be used in genetics programs that are compatible with the Phylip format.  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Nor is there any existing software that will &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;do this for you automatically.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Family Tree DNA has an option to permit the Project Administrator to sort their Project into "Groups," but provides little or no guidance on "How To" do this, nor do they offer software to do this for you.&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The PHYLIP package "Kitsch" program will sort the kits for you, but it would be up to you to the Project Administrator to do the "Grouping" by hand. &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Grouping your DNA Project properly can add value to the DNA evidence by showing who is more closely related, and who is not. And, you can base this upon the DNA information. A valuable &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;concept because sorting into groups can become more of a scientific procedure, as well as enhancing the analysis of that data. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DNA Grouping enables the use of DNA evidence as a tool which is independent of the usual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;genealogy methods. What that delivers is either a clear joining or clear separation of families that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;are either related or not related genetically. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That means that you should be able to use Genetic Distance to verify whether or not lines are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;related when normal genealogy records have been destroyed, or are otherwise not yet discovered.   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may have noticed that some Project Administrators don't appear to know what to do with Genetic Distance. That is usually obvious if they post a Genetic Distance table which looks "jumbled." Here's an example of a poorly structured Genetic Distance table, using a few selected kits from the HAM DNA Project:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebHRDtQjUI/AAAAAAAAAQc/W5yDCOFaVN4/s1600-h/Genetic_Distance_Hybrid_jumbled01.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 294px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebHRDtQjUI/AAAAAAAAAQc/W5yDCOFaVN4/s400/Genetic_Distance_Hybrid_jumbled01.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5325162705279028546" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ]&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the colored cells are jumbled all over the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;place. You can look up your own ID and match it with other kits, but it makes little to no sense for the entire Project. A table that looks like this does not tell you how the DNA Project should be sorted into groups. In fact, it doesn't resemble anything like grouping at all. &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;There's a simple way to remedy this, which should give an overview of the entire Project at a glance. The remedy would be to sort the Genetic Distance table. Once you know how to sort the Genetic Distance table, an overview of the table starts to make sense. &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's an example of the same kits that were used above, but this time they are sorted: &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebGg1YHlRI/AAAAAAAAAQU/i2BIeyucftc/s1600-h/Genetic_Distance_Hybrid_sorted02.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 297px; height: 400px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebGg1YHlRI/AAAAAAAAAQU/i2BIeyucftc/s400/Genetic_Distance_Hybrid_sorted02.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5325161876798543122" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  [ click on image to enlarge ]   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Notice that the colors are now grouped together. Similar groups are now be found along the diagonal. The table is more symmetrical, and the "colored" cells now follow a recognizable pattern.   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, the question becomes, what is the easiest way to sort the Genetic Distance table? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer is, that there are several ways to do sort &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;by Genetic Distance, but the simplest method is to sort on one of the Genetic Distance columns, then sort on the sums.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The easiest way to do that is by using Dean McGee's Y-DNA Utility to create the table, then sort on the first  column.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Notice that column #1 of the "jumbled" Genetic Distance table is given in no particular order:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebKs4Sv-BI/AAAAAAAAAQ0/4XgUlQO6H3o/s1600-h/Genetic_Distance_column01_jumbled.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 85px; height: 400px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebKs4Sv-BI/AAAAAAAAAQ0/4XgUlQO6H3o/s400/Genetic_Distance_column01_jumbled.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5325166481786271762" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge ] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Genetic Distance values vary widely, and distances that are similar are certainly not on the table next to each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here's column #1 of the "sorted" Genetic Distance table:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebIb3G-5gI/AAAAAAAAAQs/wd7_5WzefT0/s1600-h/Genetic_Distance_column01_sorted.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 86px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SebIb3G-5gI/AAAAAAAAAQs/wd7_5WzefT0/s400/Genetic_Distance_column01_sorted.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5325163990387451394" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;[ click on image to enlarge]   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the Genetic Distance shows a similar increase, and the kits that are similar are next to each other on the table. You can check your work by creating a new Genetic Distance table with Dean McGee's Utility, and taking a second look at the grouping.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt; might have noticed the flaw by doing this simple sort (from the "sorted" Genetic Distance table above). That would be the grouping of kits #44176 and 47412. It doesn't sort correctly because they tested with a different number of markers.  &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;A simple "spot check" of the sort can usually show which kits did not sort correctly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, sorting your DNA Project by Genetic Distance (on one column) may leave a few unresolved groupings. That's because this example is a rough example only. You can get a better grouping by sorting a second time on sums for each row on either side of the diagonal. (It is possible to do some basic math in order to compensate for the varying number of markers tested.)   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trickiest part of using diagonal sums is that these sums could change with each re-arrangement. So, it may take a few iterations to get a better sorted table.    &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, if you are familiar with using the PHYLIP software package, a tree created with the "Kitsch" program will do the sorting for you. You can then use the MEGA software program to "Arrange Data for Balanced Shape." Arrange your data in the order suggested by the phylogram, and use that sorted data in your next run of Dean McGee's Utility. &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next run of Dean McGee's Utility should deliver a Genetic Distance table which shows the grouping for the DNA Project with colored cells along the diagonal.   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dean McGee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility can be found at: &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;          &lt;a href="http://www.mymcgee.com"&gt;http://www.mymcgee.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;If you are interested in the mathematics behind the Fitch-Margoliash method, a good starting point would be Professor Felsenstein's documentation on the software program "Kitsch" regarding the Fitch-Margoliash method with Evolutionary Clock:   &lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;             &lt;a href="http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html"&gt;http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Genetic Distance table for the HAM DNA Project can be found with the output from Dean McGee's Utility at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_McGee_output.html"&gt; http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/HAM_DNA_McGee_output.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Facebook Share START --&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float:left;padding:4px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/connect.php/js/FB.Share"/&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a expr:share_url='data:post.url' name='fb_share' rel='nofollow' type='box_count'/&gt;  Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Get the &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/facebook-share"&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; widget and many other &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/"&gt;great free widgets&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.widgetbox.com"&gt;Widgetbox&lt;/a&gt;! 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(There are more than two dozen towns in Britain called "Ham," about six "Ham Hill" locations, about seven "Ham Green" locations, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best way to match DNA locations is with Y-Search.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, FTDNA hopes for a push in Britain in the upcoming year, so it is becoming more important to keep our Y-Search information up to date.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I say that because there is one town called "Ham" about 10 miles from Crewkerne (near Illminster), and another town called "Ham" near London. As you may recall from the &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=odoniv&amp;amp;view=videos"&gt;2007 DNA video&lt;/a&gt;, our Group #1 roughly matches these two areas in Y-Search. Our Franklin County line may have some parallels to the town called "Ham" near Frome (or Wells), if you recall the blog article about Glastonbury ties, for example. Tony, of course, has ancestors that come from a town called "Ham" near Brent Knoll (not too far from Wedmore).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other possible examples could be the town of Ham near Plymouth, which the HAM lines from Maine are researching. (It would help if the HAM lines from Maine were participating in the DNA Project.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or possibility, since our Group #2 is matching Worchestershire, that puts them closest to the town called "Ham" (north of Bristol).  Or, if our Group #4 is matching County Kent, there is a small town in County Kent called "Ham" near Sandwich (no pun intended).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can check these maps out at Streetmap:      &lt;a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/"&gt;http://www.streetmap.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;When we start getting participants in Britain, we should be getting some interesting information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, it is important to keep your Y-Search information up to date so that we have accurate information about our matches. Please enter your information on your oldest known ancestor correctly. In my case, that would be William HAM from Virginia, since any further ancestor has not yet been positively identified to date.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It was in May, 2008 that FTDNA changed the Haplotype Groupings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This affected the following existing groups:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;R1b1c&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;became   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;R1b1b2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;I1a&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;became  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:arial;" &gt;   I1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;I1b&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;became &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-family:arial;" &gt;    I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;I1c&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;became &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;I2b&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;E3b1a &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;became&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" &gt;   &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;E1b1b1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back then, I understood that FTDNA would be changing the Y-Search haplotype groups for us. But when I checked my Y-Search ID tonight, my haplotype group had been changed from "I1a" to "Unknown."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had to manually set my haplotype group at the Y-Search database. So, I would guess everybody will need to check their haplotype group out there. This should help us to identify matches from other vendors as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can change it by logging into Y-Search at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ysearch.org/"&gt;http://www.ysearch.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- select "Edit An Existing User"  (that would be your ID)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and the "Haplogroup" is just below the area with the DYS values, under your "Last name"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have not yet submitted your information to Y-Search, then you can do that by visiting your personal web page at FTDNA.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;                                       &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-5553604042113185429?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/5553604042113185429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=5553604042113185429' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/5553604042113185429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/5553604042113185429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/04/keeping-y-search-up-to-date.html' title='Keeping Y-Search Up to Date'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-2407910997742538576</id><published>2009-04-01T01:57:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-31T02:11:59.156-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2009 April Free DVD Special'/><title type='text'>2009 April Free DVD Special</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(51, 0, 153);"&gt;&lt;big style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Book Order Special - &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;Free DVD&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;small&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;with any order in April&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;                                    &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the month of April, 2009 we will be running a DVD special. Anybody that buys a book &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;will also receive a free DVD&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;HAM Counties of Origin&lt;/span&gt;" videos.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A graphical overview of HAM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;surname counties of origin in England, Virginia, and North Carolina. Hi-lites the name and date of the first person &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;with the HAM surname to appear in each county.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;These are DVD versions of the videos posted to You Tube on HAM Surname County Origins in England, Virginia, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;North Carolina (with the exception that the video on Virginia has been updated).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The DVD version of the Virginia origins video now also includes &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;HAM surname origins in an additional 9 counties in Virginia (but are not included in the You Tube version). T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;hese &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;are counties mentioned in the book "A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SdGx9RH2QzI/AAAAAAAAAP8/qN_a7-gq9uI/s1600-h/HAM_Counties_of_Origin_Trio_02.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 301px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SdGx9RH2QzI/AAAAAAAAAP8/qN_a7-gq9uI/s400/HAM_Counties_of_Origin_Trio_02.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5319228301027722034" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;VA Counties on DVD that are not in the You Tube version:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Albemarle County&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Elizabeth City County&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frederick County&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Fluvanna County&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Isle of Wight County&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;King &amp;amp; Queen County&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pittsylvania County&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rockingham County&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shenandoah County&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which brings to total video coverage of HAM surname origins to about 35 counties in Virginia, based upon &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;information from our book, "A Short History of the HAM Surname in Virginia &amp;amp; NC."&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This DVD also includes and "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);"&gt;Extras&lt;/span&gt;" area, which includes the video on "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;How To Read HAM DNA Phylograms&lt;/span&gt;" as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;well as the "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"&gt;HAM Book Trailer&lt;/span&gt;" video.&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, order a book during the month of April and receive a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;free DVD&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;To post comments, click on the title and scroll to the bottom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3560678327616192443-2407910997742538576?l=hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/feeds/2407910997742538576/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3560678327616192443&amp;postID=2407910997742538576' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2407910997742538576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3560678327616192443/posts/default/2407910997742538576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hamcountry-blog.blogspot.com/2009/03/2009-april-free-dvd-special.html' title='2009 April Free DVD Special'/><author><name>Odon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17554791797645838131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/R_MT921v9wI/AAAAAAAAAAk/fPfhhlsD7n4/S220/HAM_Country_tab_icon.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Xl_FfN-9ycM/SdGx9RH2QzI/AAAAAAAAAP8/qN_a7-gq9uI/s72-c/HAM_Counties_of_Origin_Trio_02.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3560678327616192443.post-3293257900869188248</id><published>2009-03-23T04:17:00.025-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-05T02:09:07.558-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tree Building for Y-DNA Surname Projects'/><title type='text'>Tree Building for Y-DNA Surname Projects</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;big style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Tree Building for Y-DNA Surname Projects&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A brief comparison of a few genetic genealogy tree creation software programs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;If you can't see the forest for the trees, then you're probably close enough&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One item genealogists check for is accuracy. They check their sources, double check, and try to verify inconsistent data all of the time.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;They cite their sources in order to know what each document tells them, as well as to know where to find the document.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Genealogists do this because incorrect data can affect your interpretation of who descends from whom. Without proper source information, you can draw the wrong conclusions about lineage. In &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;genealogy, errors happen all the time, and is sometimes very annoying or frustrating to fix the errors created by the confusion of bad data or wrong information. The way in which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;phylogenetic trees are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;evaluated can affect your perception of who is closely related.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I spent a good part of March looking at trees. Creating phylogenetic trees is another item that can get confusing. If you have never &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;created your own Genetic Genealogy phylogram&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;, then I suppose ignorance is bliss.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;If you have not converted your DNA data into ATGC format, then you may be wondering if there is a better way to analyze your data. At the moment, there are no genealogy courses, or even genetic genealogy books to explain this. So, short of taking a lot of time studying genetics courses at your local University&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;, I thought a brief review of the subject might be helpful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are alternatives to building phylograms. Geneticists build trees all the time. The fact is, there are about 300 tree building programs. Which, of course makes you wonder how many Genetic Genealogists are building trees. I suspect few are building trees for their Projects at this time. There is no software that I know of that attempts to do this (other than "&lt;a href="http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eodoniv/HamCountry/HAM_DNA_Project/Tools/FT2DNA.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ft2dna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;" that I wrote).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I have heard via the FTDNA conference in 2009 that Family Tree DNA will be providing a new tree&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;widget for folks, so there is hope for an easier way in the event that you don't have the time to build&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;trees on your own. I understand that FTDNA is using the term "alpha," so I will be trying to gear this article along those lines.  &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this article, I'd like to do a brief comparison of the &lt;a href="http://evolution.genetics.washington.edu/phylip.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Phylip&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; software &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;packages. I will compare the use of ATGC frequency data with my standard method of using Dean McGee's Utility (using Dean McGee's Genetic Distance as evaluated with the Kitsch program). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;By default, Dean McGee's Y-DNA Utility builds the TMRCA charts using the infinite alleles method. This article should be somewhat of a comparison of an infinite alleles model vs. an ATGC frequencies approach to creating phylogenetic trees.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hopefully, you will get an idea of the differences between &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNAPARS&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNAML&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNAMLK&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;a href="http://atgc.lirmm.fr/phyml/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;PHYML&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.tree-puzzle.de/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;TreePuzzle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PHYML and TreePuzzle are separate packages, and are not part of the Phylip package.&lt;br /&gt;DNAPARS is a DNA Parsimony Program&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;DNAML is a DNA Maximum Likelihood Program&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;DNAMLK is a DNA &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Maximum Likelihood Program with a molecular clock&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For this example, I will &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;use the data from the HAM DNA Group #1, plus an individual from Group #5 (kit 27814) as an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;outgroup anchor.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;So, the data is composed of Y-DNA output for 9 individuals, using 37 marker &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;data. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;small&gt;( Kit # 21554 not evaluated because this kit does not contain 37 markers, and most of these tree programs do not function well will data missing from a large number of markers.)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Genetic Distance and resulting trees are of interest to Group01 participants because most participants in this group have not yet identified their immigrant ancestor (through normal &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;genealogical documentation). In fact, this immigration documentation may not even exist due to the destruction of records in Virginia. Kit #N54540 is a more recent immigrant, and has traced his line back to County Somerset, England. Kit #27814 has traced their line back to Elseheim, Germany &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;(and is actually in HAM DNA Group #4, but is included here for the purpose of illustration). The remaining &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;participants has not yet identified their immigrant ancestor. Therefore, understanding the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor is significant for this group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Putting it together:&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The "control group" chart is from the standard method that is used from Dean McGee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility. It should be noted that this utility uses the infinite alleles model to create PHYLIP compatible Genetic Distance input. The Genetic Distance input is then used with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;the Kitsch program to generate a phylogenetic tree.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The program "ft2dna" was used to convert into&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; ATGC format. At this time, I know of no other software program that will convert Y-DNA Project data (DYS repeat counts) into ATGC format. So, "ft2dna" was used for this purpose.  I have tried to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;check the routines in "ft2dna" for accuracy, but the CAVEAT here is that if I have not done the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;conversion correctly, then it will affect the outcome of tree creation. Family Tree DNA has a funny way to calculate the Genetic Distance for DYS389i, DYS389ii, YCAIIa, and YCAIIb, and conversion to ATGC values is not published by FTDNA. Tree errors could easily be introduced at the time of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;conversion into ATGC format, so it is important to note that.&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next, this ATGC information was run through the PHYLIP program "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;DNADIST&lt;/span&gt;" in order to capture Genetic Distance in the form of ATGC frequencies. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;That is, an effort was made to derive Genetic Distance independently from Dean &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;McGee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility. &lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, as Professor Felsenstein notes in his PHYLIP documentation on distance (distance.html), using frequency data may not be expected to be an independent evaluation (if the distance is computed from the original data by a method which does not correct for reversals and parallelisms in evolution). The example he gives is for (pure) genetic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;drift, where the program &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;CONTML may be more appropriate. Felsenstein says that Fitch, Kitsch, and Neighbor may be appropriate for use with frequency data if additivity holds, a neutral mutation model can be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;assumed, and Nei's genetic distance is used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;So, if you are a Genetic Genealogist, you should be aware that different software programs may &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;deliver different tree results due to the underlying assumptions behind the software. If you are going to use these, then I would suggest that you use a kit with a greater Genetic Distance as an outgroup.&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The DNADIST program was used with ATGC data for input, and delivered output in the form of frequencies. The frequency output from DNADIST wa
